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This is device specific. The on screen effects show on devices without dedicated FX screens.

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To be fair, that is the official video and it shows it on screen on the Prime 4+

@STU-C The video was probably recorded with an unreleased version to get content ready in time for release.

Here’s the info from the user guide for the layout manager on FX, mind the note:

Main FX: Tap this to enable or disable BPM Effects from appearing in Performance View. When enabled, the FX selection and parameters will be shown at the bottom of the touchscreen. Tap the FX name to open the list of effects, and then tap to select a new effect. See BPM FX for more information.

Note: This option is not available for PRIME 4 and PRIME 4+.

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Oh yeah don’t disagree with that, was just addressing the fact it’s on the vid, probably needs re-posting.

Congrats once again to the entire Denon Dev. team for listening and responding to your loyal customer base. We look forward to further additional updates in the near future!

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Troubling changes:

Changed how layer B is disabled or hidden on the Prime player separates, and Shift + Layer now randomly changes the layout.

Dropped the active layer’s whole static waveform needle drop always being at the bottom.

Removed from the ‘standard single deck view’ the above deemphasized background whole static waveform when the other layer has something loaded.

Removed whole static waveforms at the bottom of the screen when browsing the library.

Key change stuff is much smaller and in a different location that obscures useful information and needle drop. I prefer the old position better than the new, and something like this at the top would be even better:

The on-screen performance / HUD track & deck info & controls now completely disappear when a track is downloading or loading.

Other suggestions:

An option to automatically swap the stacked waveforms when changing the layer might mitigate some of the former issues, though I think just showing the other layer’s whole static waveform deemphasized worked better on the player separates.

Your load boxes still don’t swap.

I suggest if you’re going to stick with this change of how layer B is disabled, you instead have Layer + Shift toggle predictably between your three layout View 1,2,3 choices. Right now, it just weirdly changes your current view and doesn’t even toggle back to what you had.

We still can’t change layer by any way on screen. If your Layer button goes out, that’s a problem. And before someone suggests that’s the case for Play & Cue, there’s already redundancies for starting, stopping, and setting cues.

When layers aren’t deactivated, ability to change layer by:

  • In Dual Deck Performance / HUD View: tapping the moving waveform.
  • In Single Deck Performance / HUD View: tapping the deemphasized background layer’s whole static waveform. Obviously tapping the foreground current layer’s whole static waveform would either do a needle drop if that’s allowed or do nothing.
  • In Browser View: tapping the bottom mini whole static waveform for the respective layer.

Screen usage is poor in vertical moving waveform mode unless the Performance Library is active.

Even single deck and horizontal moving waveform view, if you can tolerate the moving waveform at the bottom instead of the needle drop, has gaps above & below that seem odd aren’t being used to show the background layer’s whole static waveform somewhere.

For the Prime player separates, I’m not a fan of the two stacks of four on-screen hot cue representations per layer when in side-by-side view modes. I think eight smaller in a row better matches the physical buttons.

Side-by-side horizontal moving waveforms would be a nice option for the dual view mode.

Obviously ditto with more customization as previously mentioned elsewhere.

The good and bad:

I’m sure the all-in-one standalone console users will be happy and probably owners of the LC6000, too, but this is partly a step backwards in many ways for owners of just the player separates… especially if they’re using layers. You haven’t just added capability and options but removed quite a bit, too.

I will stick to 3.4.0 until at least some of the above is sufficiently resolved.

I have already performed a listening test and it is heard at a higher volume and we accept more!! :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: (I imagine that in future updates a regulator could be implemented).

Excellent work, congratulations to the entire development team, I’ll download it today.

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which main fx ? u mean on the mixer section on top? or the fx section

Moin @STU-C,

thanks for your remark. I detected it as I searched for it and I’m really glad that this feature works again. And I think there are many other users delighted as well.

Many thanks to DENON’s staff as well :innocent:

Brgds BeatMaster

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Addie is quoting the user guide, the screen you have seen on that video isn’t an option in the live release for the Prime 4 as it has those mini lcd screens for the FX.

i have a prime 4 plus

Yes that too, either of the Prime 4 models will not display that screen.

this guy also have it

They probably recorded their videos using a beta build of the firmware and not the final version. Bear in mind those people likely did this a couple of weeks ago in preparation.

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So wait, we can disable the beat indicator thing now? I noticed the request was closed.

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Beat Phase / Beat Keeper now ,how does ti work ? it sound new for me

SC5000 shows 64 beats at 160bpm

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You can switch between a phase meter (the line that shows the beats are in line) or the the beat keeper (where there are 4 blocks denoting the beats)

Dear @JWill and all concerned,

with this update it is realized to unload a track when it is finished (hit shift + load).

Good things take their time.

Thanks a lot and brgds BeatMaster

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