Seriously? I’m not even going to respond to that nonsense comment.
I would gladly approve a new Feature Request on OP’s subject to get your vote on. @catraxx hasn’t been seen since January so it’s probably up to you.
This is funny though
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I see some major trolling going on here…
And if anyone feels like a valid coding force that inMusic can use to make the software better - apply to work at inMusic. If You are so good, they will give You the ssh and a salary on top of that.
To file in Your application go to inMusic brands website > careers > there are open positions and description how to apply if Your favourite position is not open.
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I would also like to get full ssh access because denon cant manage to implement a color blind feature which is literally 1/2 day of coding and 1/2 day of debugging. might just do it on my own
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Im colourblind, what are you struggling with?
Only way to do it.
If I made dj products I wouldn’t give open access to any mere mortal. A business is a business.
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If Pioneer would be open source, they would have a lot of user hacked and unreliable units in random locations. Then djs will complain about it - damaging to the brand. This is a NO GO!
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Thats another huge point, these devices connect directly to the internet. I dont know the exact security measures in place but providing people with SSH access surely has the potential to give them access to any device, therefore putting online devices at risk of attack from those with malicious intent.
And anonymous people on forums, im sorry but they fall exactly into the category of ‘people with potential malicious intent’
Imagine if someone found a way of attacking devices with ransomware that are connected to the net and it transpires that Denon provided the access to do so.
All hypothetical, but in my profession, SSH keys are used to prevent unwanted users from accessing a server.
This is all before addressing the amount of complaints from bricked devices whereby a customer downloads some untested firmware build online, loads it to their machine then decides its Denon’s job to solve the problem afterwards. Or they just dont own up to it and try to put it through the repair loop on the sly.
There’s no “right” to hacking.
And I’m certain that InMusic would rather a hacked unit bearing their name on most of the sides didn’t crash in front of hundreds or thousands of people due to hacked code.
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Bruteforcing is a real bad idea. As I know, I found a counter for wrong passphrases on ssh. So if that counter hits, it could be that you can´t access your device at all.
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I hope Denon has not implemented such a counter, since it would make your device vulnerable to denial-of-service attacks. Anyone with network access could lock you out of your device by doing a series of connection attempts with invalid credentials.
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Have you heard of the operating system powering ~90+% of all server hardware? It’s open source. That thing called Android? Open source as well. Most of the libraries used by EngineOS? Open source.
What you said came straight out of some Microsoft funded marketing event.
Like saying legalizing the posession of lighters or matches would cause uncontrollable arsony and fires everywhere. (If you’re american replace lighters with firearms and arsony and fires with shootings)
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SSH has no such thing, you might be talking about fail2ban which blocks a specific IP address for some amount of time after some amount of failed logins.
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Raise a feature request, see if it gets the votes. That is your best course of action.
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You clearly don’t understand the point. And I’m not American. 17 years in this business showed me a lot what is reliable and what is not. If You work in stage professional business, You know, that having a reliable gear is a must. And if You let people tinker with the gear, You introduce a lot of variables, that can go wrong. No one has time for issues in the middle of the event. And if anything can go wrong, better to minimise the risk. I know many users can have some skill to make the gear better, but majority has the skill to make it worse. So better to keep these users be exactly - users, not modders. And Android is most unreliable system I ever had on a smartphone…
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I don’t think it will ever be implemented but vote here: 
https://community.enginedj.com/t/allow-users-to-change-the-ssh-key/46927
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That’s the key point. Not so much on peoples own gear if they are just practicing privately, but where people are taking their gear to a public place, or bedroom video streaming to the world (well, to a watching audience of 11) or worse still if someone hacks a deck which is in a club somewhere.
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There is also the consideration that someone takes a modified unit to an event and it bricks… who do we think gets the abuse for that on social media, not the modifier, it’s Denon/inMusic.
You can see the posts now “yet another Denon unit failing in a professional environment”, when the root cause is outside of their control.
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Well I am not using my players to put bread on the table. If you need reliable gear, then don’t use the feature?!
If you won’t use it anyways, why do you care what I do with my units? Do you also care about me using the streaming services? Because they too can be unreliable and streaming services being unreliable for me affects you in the exact same way that me having SSH access to my units does. (Not at all, that is)
(Plus, 17 years in the business and you don’t have a separate dev/prod setup? LOL)
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You don’t even need SSH access to brick a Denon setup, I can just power cycle my x1850 and the link is broken for like half an hour or ~ten “refresh IP” (whatever is faster).
Which is one thing I hope to debug with Shell access btw.
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