After a 6 years member here i really can not understand why some of you spend your time of what pioneer is doing or not. I choosed time ago to purchase a prime 4 for my needs. Time by time i read the industry news but never with sarcasm. Its pointless.
As a dj that is traveling from club to club, I have to use sometimes cdjâs or other gear. Not always I am allowed to use a denon setup. So itâs good to be well informed what is possible and whatâs not, to keep my performance on top track.
i went to a studio around a month ago they had cdj 3000s my understanding is the latest iteration has gated cue but the cdj 3000s do not very strange it through me off at first as i hit the cue button and the song just plays took me a while to adjust, surely that is a simple firmware update but again another reason why i chose Denon gated cue from day 1
Some of us have gear from both Pioneer/AT and Denon. Besides, Pioneer/AT is industry standard, and if you play out on gear that is not your own, itâs going to be on Pioneer/AT hardware. Period. Thatâs never going to change regardless of what Denon comes out with in the future. And if by some miracle that changes, I will be the first to happily eat my words.
Way to go champ! Thatâs the best attitude.
Iâve been here for 9+ years. All the baseless optimism dissipated years ago.
Itâs simply a status symbol; nothing more. Laidback Luke showed all colleagues that a professional set can be done on a phone and tiny controller. Now heâs also back to the status symbol, because clients demanded itâŚ
As an owner of 3000s and SC6KM, there is not a doubt in my mind that the Denon deck has superior functionality. But, again, status symbol or not, itâs what EVERYONE demands! Professional and amateurs, alike. So, if you play out on gear that is not your own, itâs going to be on Pioneer/AlphaTheta gear. So, itâs foolish not to acclimate yourself to whatever they come out with, because at some point youâre going to have to play on it.
Iâm not debating that. Glad I use what I prefer.
Not necessarily. Itâs what is generally made available, but maybe not what âeveryoneâ would prefer to use, given the choice. See the previous comment on Laidback Luke. Using a different setup to others was a hassle, compared to just turning up and plugging in a USB stick.
Iâm sure if a big enough name was booked, and they wanted certain kit, it would be accommodated (specified on their rider) but itâs less bother for everyone involved if only one set of kit needs to be provided and theyâre all happy to play on it.
Pioneer/AlphaTheta are dominant. There is no point in splitting hairs trying to state otherwise. Are there âsomeâ DJs that prefer other brandsâ hardware besides Pioneer/AT? Of course. Fine, fine, then I guess I need to retract my statement that âEVERYONEâ demands it. Yâall got me! Here, Iâll rephrase it. Nearly EVERYONE demands to play on 2000nxs2s, 3000s, 3000Xs, or hell, even XZs and AZs. I have never had someone request a Prime 4 or SC6000 in their rider. Nor have any of my other promoter friends. Iâve not even seen a Prime 4 or SC6000(M) at a party I was attending to personally party/dance at. The only person I know that has a SC6000M is me. Even the one guy in town who previously had SC5000s replaced them with 3000Xs. The reason he told me was because there was no stated guarantee that Denon was even go9ing to continue making SC decks going into the future. And, you know what? Iâve also raised that concern here, and was left with silence.
Hopium doesnât accomplish anything. Iâve said this countless times on here, but for whatever reason, peeps just donât get it. ALL of the gear we use are simply tools. There is no point in getting emotionally invested. Thereâs no need for tribalist defense of this or that gear! I enjoy using my SC6000M. I also enjoy using my 3000s. I am seriously thinking of buying a Rane System One (and modding it with Rotary Pots) because itâs cool AF! Iâve also bought an AZ for small popup gigs. I personally prefer a Xone:96, but also have a V10 for whenever itâs requested. Tools!!!
Have Pio/AT stated that they will carry on making CDJs?
Besides, even if SC decks will never be made again, the 5000s he bought will continue to function. They wonât disappear or fail to work if no more are made.
Hopium, emotional investment, tribalist defense? No - just reacting to your statement that âeveryoneâ demands Pioneer.
FYI I have gear from Denon, Pioneer, Ableton, Native Instruments, Numark, Korg, Roland, Akai, Novation, Gemini, Technics, Alllen & Heath, Yamaha, Alesis, VestaxâŚ
Iâm not emotionally invested in any particular brand. I buy it if it suits my needs.
Then thereâs no need to argue. So, why are you?
Perhaps itâs different in the UK or Europe, but here in the south-eastern US, Iâve never heard of anyone that doesnât.
Itâs called a discussion. I disagreed with your claim, but that doesnât make this an argument.
As stated, I use kit from many companies, hence I donât demand Pioneer. Therefore your statement that âeveryoneâ demands it is untrue. Simple logic.
I guess you missed the part where, due to your statement, I recanted that claim.
No I didnât miss it. I also didnât miss the mass of text after that, where you said youâd never seen a Prime 4 being used, and never had it requested (etc), still trying to justify your claim.
Just because youâve never seen it, doesnât mean nobody on the planet is using a Prime 4 (I have one here) or any kit other than Pio/AT. Thatâs not âbaseless optimismâ, itâs just logic and common sense.
Youâre right. What was I thinking? I clearly wasnât. My bad <3