Lmao this is funny
TBH I love the simplicity of what they are doing with the groove area and the remix on the fly capabilities!!
Yeah, the guys from crossfader are boring and many times they act like they donât know what to do
As I already stated there:
âJoin us as we explore its cutting-edge technology, user-friendly interface, and innovative functions that set it apart from the competitionâ
^ Sounds 100% neutral and objective to me.
Stems Roll on the vocal is brilliant, that is the outstanding feature here.
Edit: Mojaxx not pulling any punches on the state of Rekordbox and its GUI.
Edit 2: the amount of people who have no idea what theyâre talking about in regards to XLR/TRS is frightening.
Itâs a meh from me Iâm afraid. IMO nothing âcutting edgeâ or âinnovativeâ really, just some dedicated buttons for overlaying drum loops.
Samplers are not new in DJ software, and itâs usually possible to loop and sync drums, so itâs literally just the buttons.
We could do that standalone on the Primes - if Denon finish what they started with the sampler, and allow it to loop and syncâŚ
I totally agree - the tech is already there. Just polish it and itâs done.
Groove Circuit - another automation thing for other DJs to complain about along with use of the sync button .
Overall looks like a nice piece of kit for the price.
Thanks for posting.
Off Topic: I absolutely hate seeing thumbs with people making silly faces for clicks.
And yes, Mojaxx isnât immune from this behavior.
How long before a âgroove circuitâ feature request? because its now standard on all other gear.
I think it is already there somewhere (just named looper/sample looperâŚ)
Iâm not a particular fan of the product, but it must be recognized that from a strategic point of view itâs a good move on ATâs part.
They offer a gateway to the feel/layout of their CDJ 3000/DJM A9 setup at a lower cost. Exactly what they need as an entry point to catch beginner DJs and then lock them into their ecosystem. So the day they move on to a real 3000/A9 setup they immediately find their bearings.
This is why Pioneer/AT manages to maintain its position as leader and âindustry standardâ, because they understood that at all levels it was necessary to make the user captive to get them used to the âclub standardâ feel/layout.
And this is exactly why Denon DJ canât get ahead, because the Denon DJ range is inconsistent and heterogeneous between the different products. There is no continuity or guideline in terms of layout between the entry-level, mid-range and the Sc6000/x1850 products. The only thing that comes close is the SC Live, but the prime 4 layout is totally different, same for the prime go.
Not to mention that in reality the entry-level of Denon DJ (which only does stand-alone now) is rather Numark, and Rane who takes care of the controllers still has a completely different layout, style and buttons.
There is no continuity or harmonization between Numark/Rane and Denon DJ to make it so that if a user who starts on a Numark NS4FX then moves to a Rane 4, feels familiar the day he finds himself on an SC6000+ x1850 control room
In fact this DDJ-GRV6 takes up the idea that I had developed in this post in which I proposed to develop a controller based on the layout of the LC6000. This would offer a real gateway at a lower cost to capture new users in the Denon ecosystem, to have a controller that would have the feeling / layout of an Sc6000 / x1850 control room and that makes users familiar with this type of equipment.
Thatâs a massive exaggeration⌠the reason they canât get a foothold has nothing to do with their products, and everything to do with this notion that you have to be using Pioneer/Alpha gear in order to get gigs.
That brand is far too embedded into DJ culture for anyone to threaten it, so the best thing InMusic can do is offer an alternative and hopefully sell enough of them to remain profitable.
Mojaxx did a good review.
Lack of XLR connectors for balanced outputs is weird but ok, fixable with a set of not-as-useful TRS jack-XLR cable or adapters for connectors.
One interesting thing that Mojaxx mentioned is the FX section when used with Serato - claimed to be fully software based BUT⌠not using the standard SDJ FX banks.
Implies that Serato worked with Pioneer to emulate in SDJ software the Rekordbox/Pioneer FXs.
It could be that Mojaxx is wrong and the device has hardware FX section that is used only when using non-Pioneer software? Saying this because there were other Pioneer controllers with that solution.
Yeah i picked up on that, definitely a different new way of approaching FX for Serato.
You are right but I think it is also partly because of that. The layout of the mixer part of a Prime 4/prime 4+ is for example totally different from the layout of an X1850.
Whereas if you take the equivalent at Pioneer/AT the layout of an XDJ XZ is totally similar to the layout of a CDJ2000nxs2/DJM900nxs2 set and the future XDJ-AZ takes up in every way the layout of a CDJ3000/DJM A9 set. And keeping this consistency between products so that users feel familiar on the flagships is strategically a good idea.
Look at the Pioneer/AT controller range, they all have almost the same layout apart from the Rev1 and Rev7 which are intended for hip hop DJs. Almost everything else takes up a button layout close to the âclub standardâ
Im at the point where i think this whole âtrying to catch Pioneerâ thing needs to be put to bed and InMusic just need to focus on providing a good quality alternative product at a competitive price for those who will look elsewhere. Almost stop worrying about what the other brand are offering and just carve their niche.
I have no issues swapping between Prime 2 and LC-6000, similar workflows.
The deck part of a prime 2/prime 4/4+ except the pad layout is quite similar to that of an LC6000 everything is laid out the same way so itâs not a problem, especially for experienced DJs who can easily mix on anything.
But I think a lot of beginner DJs like to feel familiar when they evolve and upgrade their equipment. They like to feel in their comfort zone, especially for a question of muscle memory. And where AT/pioneer is smart is that they think about their layout to gradually bring them as close as possible to their flagship products.
See personally i dislike that right hand column FX section now ive seen the alternative on the Prime 2. Much more flexibility to tweak effects sounds, more âsoftwareâ like id say.
i also think this cue pad placement is ridiculous too, literally a ploy by Alpha to put some industry standard in place (that only they do) in order to negate impact from competitors, all under this guise that âpro DJsâ like to rest their hand on the bottom of the deck. I can safely say as someone who still manually mixes and adjusts the platter, in over 10yrs of using devices with pads under the platter, ive never once activated them by mistake.