Remember there will be the usual small Bluetooth audio delay between pressing play and hearing the audio but for streaming audio to, say, a speaker at a BBQ or a second room at a function (anywhere where mixing isnât critical) then it will be a welcome addition.
Is the update over wifi already available? I havenât received any update notification on my Mixstream Pro+ yet via wifiâŚ
It should be. On the âAboutâ screen in the settings on your device, do you see the update available there?
If not, you may have to download from the link and manually install it.
Unfortunately not, then I will try the manual way.
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Not available on the Mixstream Pro either yet over the air
Should we wait a couple of days or update manually? I mean does the firmware have any issues why it is not yet available or kept back from ota on this device?
Just before I purchased my Prime 4 I watched on you tube ,There was a video by one of Denon groop employees saying that prime 4 and 4+ have identical guts all is the same inside the box only outside have been reworked I then did not wait and payed full price for my 4 and now this update proves that they are not the same . Sorry but I am very disappointed and sad because Bluetooth would have been very nice for me. Djnorm ( disappointed dj)
Can you post a link to that video so we can see it please?
As far as im aware, the only portion of the device that was ever discussed as being the same is the processing chip.
Aside from this single, fairly gimmicky feature, your 5 year old machine is still being given a new lease of life every couple of months with lots of updates and additional functionality. Id say itâs a pretty good deal still.
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Probably the same spec but not identical hardware. As a product progresses throughout its lifetime there are revisions. These go unnoticed to almost everyone but individual internal components are tweaked. There was a difference between the black and white Prime 4 as there was a bug int he screen on the white edition that had to get fixed (it couldnât dim).
WiFi and Bluetooth chips may get tweaked over a production run but although being the same spec, may give different results. Itâs how sometimes some users can experience a bug but others donât when though the hardware is the same model number.
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There is a very easy solution to this problem. I am baffled as to why The engine DJ software team didnât consider allowing BT support using a USB 3.0 BT dongle. The P4 & P2 have two USB 3.0 ports on the back of the unit. USB BT dongles are universally available everywhere. There is no excuse for blaming the on-board hardware when you have alternatives. Seriously.
You may also want to read this before making such definitive statements.
I work for a large telecoms company and use of Bluetooth USB dongles is banned on our work computers. The reason being, they pose a high security risk due to their ability in allowing hackers a back door into a network.
So whilst an ultra simplistic view might paint a picture of ÂŁ10 USB dongles from Amazon solving all the worldâs problems, and DJs playing the latest Lizzo track from their phone. The reality of why they arenât compatible might be somewhat more sinister.
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If itâs a socketed module, itâs upgradable. Bluetooth and WiFi modules are quite commonly used and replaced on PCs. If Denon wonât allow field servicable part upgrades, they should at least allow the customer return the unit to an authorized service center to have the module replaced by a qualified technician. If theyâve been shipping a known buggy older BT/WiFi module then they should have done a product recall.
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Are you really that desperate for this feature to pay for the expense of shipping a unit to a repair centre and technician man hours to install a part? Just buy a new unit, that would be cheaper than the above.
Itâs Bluetooth ffs, itâs barely relevant to a DJs workflow 
and can easily be worked around with a ÂŁ5 cable that plugs into an aux socket.
Edit: and product recall, lol. Words fail me. Youâve taken histrionics to a new level here.
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It wasnât known that it was buggy until they decided to give us Bluetooth. It was never an intended feature of the units when they launched but as they were inside a decision was made to open them up. Testing revealed some models werenât up to scratch.
We werenât ever sold BT in our products at point of sale so I caât be mad (I have 2x SC5000Ms & a Prime 4 - all of which are not supported).
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No, there isnât.
Statistically speaking the chances that someone would intend to hack your P4 via a Bluetooth USB module vs someone intending on stealing a corporationâs IP are vastly different situations.
Yes, there is a tradeoff between convenance of having a Bluetooth enabled device (Like every cell phone made over the last 20 years) and the possible risk of that device being hacked to steal your data.
Common sense says you probably shouldnât relay on the device to protect your data, you should do so by following your own secure best practices and not leave sensitive information on it without encrypting it first.
I frankly would be more worried about my data being abused by the corporations collecting it than some malicious hacker.
Exactly this MrWilks⌠how could they possibly have known there was a âbugâ on 5yr old hardware when it was only being tested a few months back.
A product recall on the 4 devices would literally bankrupt InMusic, based on the fact recalls have to be funded 100% by the manufacturer. I suppose the old Alphatheta monopoly argument would be finally answered as a result lol.
Itâs not about âsomeone hackingâ
Itâs about a malicious cyber attack being carried out by using the dongle as a vehicle to access the device and its subsequent networks. The devices connect to an InMusic server, to streaming service servers, you have an account profile on there, they also connect to available wifi networks, all of which can be potentially attacked.
A Bluetooth dongle hands over the connection handshake to an external device and canât be governed, hence the risk.
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I was not implying that Denon (not InMusic) should have done a product recall. I simply suggested that if they wished to offer a replacement/upgrade module option to their P4/P2 customers they could. It would be a choice for the customer. If they want to go dump another $1,500 on a new P4+, fine. Do so. But I sincerely doubt a module upgrade to cost anywhere near the price of a new P4+. Not to mention that the older P4 is a perfectly good unit in the first place even without the BT option.
Think about how much your car dealership charge to replace parts, it would cost an absolute fortune to ship a 10kg device to and from a repair centre, buy a replacement part as a single unit and have it installed by a technician.
If it was say a faulty screen, or platter or something else then it would be viable, activating Bluetooth, utterly pointless.
Apparently itâs the reason Nintendo didnât open up the Bluetooth headphone support on the Switch for a few years as they were scared people would use BT as a trojan horse to access and dump the firmware.
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