Not just Serato, Native instruments also adopted it.
From a purely ergonomic point of view, it seems silly having a ‘performance’ pad somewhere that requires reaching over other things to perform on, especially given the risk of what accidentally touching that other thing carries (jog wheel platters stopping the music).
Funnily enough my home setup has those pads above the mixer as I’m using a separate controller for them, but on an all in one I couldn’t think of anything worse. I do however quite like the REV7 and S series mixer style of having them above the faders.
One thing Pioneer is better in 2023, is to use some high quality ESS dac, Denon with their Prime 4 don’t have a good reputation of using high end audio output
Wow, hold Your horses here. Prime 4 sounds worse than Pioneer?
Well, maybe (I can’t test that), but definitely no pioneer deck sounds better than SC series players… make couple of blind tests to check for Yourself. I was amazed how even old DNS3700 sounds waaay better than CDJ3000 today!
Exactly. I’m not a groomsman and it ain’t a funeral (debatable, I know lol). Absolutely no one has ever had a problem with it. I still am clean shaven and neat. If you do a great job and give them an amazing night you’d be surprised how far that’ll getcha : ) I didn’t become a DJ to wear a suit. Don’t get me started.
Meh. I still suspect Pioneer moved increasingly over to ESS because of the AKM fire. Even when my hearing was any good, like back when I was the only one in the room able to repeatedly blind identify Thiel’s experimental charged dielectric unbalanced interconnect cables the size of a fire hose with a power supply the size of a car battery (may have actually been a car battery, now that I think of it) in & out of the path or when Burmester was activating & deactivated their upsampling algorithm used in Ferraris (there were witnesses to both blinded listening sessions), I doubt I’d have been able to hear a difference between a Sabre and a Velvet DAC with my freaky golden hearing. This latest stuff measures amazingly and is incredibly sophisticated compared to even a decade ago. Who knows, though. I certainly couldn’t now.
I also really liked some little cheap Burr Browns (now TI) old Denon used to use. I don’t think the old Wolfsons used on the oldest CDJs even sound that bad. I think at least as much of it is the opamps, caps, power supply, and associated circuitry isolation contributing to the sound of even gear with reference digital processing. 99% of the character of the Prime systems’ sound is definitely not attributable to anything in their analog output section, and there’s nothing preventing any of you from hooking the X18xx line of mixers to any outboard DACs you want. I suppose the tone of the analog outputs is a more important issue with the all-in-one units that lack a digital output, but people should be harping more about Prime’s audio processing firmware code than its DAC stages.
All the pre-CDJ3000 Pioneer players with digital outs that I’ve tested were bit-perfect transports when the pitch fader is at zero and you’re not doing some weird sampling thing of a track that’s not loaded that some of the later models allowed. With keylock off, at zero pitch, or with keylock on & slightly in a positive pitch, the old Denons were pretty comparable to the old Pioneers’ processing. The CDJ3000 uses more convoluted processing than their old players and definitely upsamples now, but seems to have more fidelity in most situations than the Prime playback that seems to be using more computationally efficient resampling and anti-aliasing filters. For certain, Prime playback has more rolled off treble and more intermodulation distortion (aliasing echo?) at zero pitch than pre-CDJ3000 Pioneer players.