Im only on standalone so i cant speak with expertise about the Denon link capability. I do however have lots of experience with RB link and CDJ-2000s. I always found it to be a little bit janky, lagging quite a lot and sometimes just disconnecting.
I guess a huge library would be better off on cloned SSD drives across both devices, but then it still doesnt solve the issue of standalone’s seeing performance problems.
As the guy said on the other thread, perhaps it would be good to have an official document from Inmusic so we can take guidance on what spec of drive we should be using.
100mb feels weird, network chipsets have been 10/100/1000 for many years now. If it is 100mb only I would also like to know the duplex it’s negotiated. Half duplex would be very slow.
I have a P4 so will check that later today but that is assuming the P4 is using the same network chip.
Shouldn’t take 3 minutes, assuming that there are zero bottle necks, and 100mb/s is the speed that it is being transferred, 1gb should take 10 seconds (1000mb is 1Gb, give or take 24mb in old money). Therefore double that, it should take 20 seconds for 2Gb.
Obviously it’s not quite as simplistic as that, but should give a rough calculation.
You are mixing up Gbit or Mbit with GB or MB. Common mistake. The difference is a factor 8.
1 Gigabit per second network speed (1 Gbps) is theoretically 120 MB per second data transfer. Due to some protocol overhead it’s about 100~110 MB per second in reality.
So a 2GB database takes about 20 seconds on a gigabit network. However, speeds are hardcoded 100Mbit between player and mixer at the moment. In essence a 10~11 MB per second data transfer.
A 2GB database would indeed (@mufasa) take 200 seconds. Don’t know if it needs to be opened completely over the network btw.
Off topic, but what happens if you connect 5 decks’ Ethernet together on a network? Engine Connect is out of the question, I understand, but can they share drives, or is that also limited to four decks?
If that doesn’t work over Link, I suppose one could connect to a PC’s central library and use the players to browse and download from it. And there’s always streaming downloads.
Is there a reason for the limitation? I am not that knowledgeable about the proper tech details but if Denon at the time had advertised the sc6000/m to to use an SSD as an option why then cap the rate of transfer it just seems strange to me at least i know that others are having similar issues be helpful if Denon could clarify how this can be addressed.
Thanks i just hope it can be resolved somehow it does spoil the experience and seems to become worse on the 2nd player when needing to go into different playlists in a set the load time can be several seconds to over a minute in my experience
And even worse on third player, and even worse on the fourth player. I wonder how much extra a gigabit port (on players) and a gigabit switch (on the mixers) would have cost to put in. I’m guessing no more than a couple dollars. Sad really.
I can’t imagine a fast SSD connected to a USB 3.0 port would be the bottleneck though. It’s obvious that the speed of the network ports are the bottleneck here. Browsing and previewing is always faster on the player hosting the USB drive. If that isn’t proof, I don’t know what is. I’m using a gigabit switch now, and there is no improvement over the built-in switch on the mixer. The ports on the players are the culprits. Wish we could mod the players with gigabit ports.
