Ah that’s strange, I get lots if copyright notices, however with no takedowns.
Indeed not able to monetise anything, but thats also ok. I have over 43 mixes there.
I do it for the fun and exposure, not the money.
That is what DJ work is for, i.e clubs or parties.
If your into making money from your mixes, then Mixcloud is the only option and is a paid subs,
I had more takedowns in Mixcloud than any other platform by the way,. due to there t&c’s
Twitch might come soon, however there are quite a few conditions behind that one.
over all read the T&C’s in full (its worth it for you), and be mindful of how much you love ish to spend on subscriptions…
Twitch doesn’t allow uploads to be stored if you sign up to the DJ category. Even prior to that (or in other categories) strikes came from stored VODs, not live streams.
Artists and labels are not “scummy” for wanting an income from their product, or for protecting their copyright.
I dunno why you keep bring up the earning thing. That’s got nothing to do with it. You can’t justify sharing of copyrighted material by saying you’re not making money from it.
yes twitch is quite a different platform and indeed im not too much busy with them. Also the up and coming DJ section is also with it limitations, and not sure on the storage and replying of things there.
I also agree with Artists getting paid, hence why I don’t mind The youTube copyright warnings, If I do monetise my channel, then all the moneys goto the Artist’s. I do agree with this also.
On a side note I did also pay for ALL my music collection :•) Its also mostly vinyl records.
So you really do want to die on this hill of defending the people who even their own artists despise?
Which part are you not able to, or choosing not to understand?. They pick and choose which content they leave alone and which content they remove based purely on how much ‘influence’ they believe the channel curator has. It’s complete hypocrisy and based on nothing more than pure greed.
I have no idea, outside of being your usual ‘I’ll argue against every single point on the forum’ self why you’re so hellbent on defending these scumbags.
There’s right and there’s wrong. It’s as simple as that.
Which part of “it doesn’t belong to you” are you not able to understand?
You can’t just do what you want with copyrighted material. They own it, whether that’s a big label, a small one, or an independent artist on Bandcamp.
If YOU wrote a song or produced a track and put it online, then someone came along and helped themselves, saying that they’d written it (or whatever) - would you be fine with that? As long as they don’t sell it, right? Or would you try to stop them?
So you think it’s ok for say a standard DJ to post a reel on instagram and have it taken down for copyright reasons, then Calvin Harris does the same and the owners of said track will share it all over the place telling everyone how cool it is.
It’s about ethics and consistency, and the fact is, these clowns choose as and when they want to enforce their ‘laws’ depending on how much it suits their agenda (making money).
If it’s about ‘right and wrong’ as you claim, take down every piece of content, remove the lot, no deviations.
But oh no, they won’t do that will they, because $$$$
Also funny how it’s only ever the major labels like Warner, Sony etc whose tracks get tagged, the huge conglomerates…. Not the smaller indie labels.
I’d speak to her and if she insisted I would take it down for her. But then that situation is completely different, and part of the whole point, they don’t ask, they just have algorithms that automatically pull content with no questions asked, algorithms they can conveniently switch off when it’s ’influencer’ driven.
And as far as your comment about a team of people, you know as well as I do that is complete BS and you’re just projecting, stop trying to swerve just to prove your nonsense point.
You’re here to just argue against literally anything anyone ever posts in this forum, by any means possible.
My Analogue Journal, a YouTube channel with unknown DJs with non monetised videos, never have their videos taken down, could it be the 1.2m follows, hmmmmmm, I wonder
Complete BS. You’re just projecting. Copyright laws are not nonsense. People trying to protect their rights are not all scumbags.
If it wasn’t for these so called scumbags, we wouldn’t have anywhere near the amount of music in our collections, enabling us to go out and earn money from gigs.
Go ahead, remove all the music from scumbag labels in your collection if you feel so strongly about them. If someone at a gig requests an artist from one of those labels, tell them you won’t play it because they didn’t let you upload a mix.
No, it’s the artists who produce the music, not the people in suits who are raking it in. The people in suits are essentially Football agents, but greasier.
I support the artists by buying their music, not the record label.
The thing I don’t get, if you’re a ‘DJ’ as you claim to be, why are you so against DJs doing the one thing we are all here for, creating mixes of music…. What is it you hate so much about DJs doing the literal thing they took interest in the medium to do. Strange behaviour from a so called ‘DJ’
So you think it’s ok for say a standard DJ to post a reel on instagram and have it taken down for copyright reasons, then Calvin Harris does the same and the owners of said track will share it all over the place telling everyone how cool it is.
That is not at all what PK said. It is not legal for anyone without a license to use music of other people in this way. Fulltime pro DJs who play at very big events usually have a license, they have a team of people working for them. Maybe they have a deal with one of the labels, because labels are interested in promoting their music. Understand this in the sense of influencer marketing. And the festival organisers get proper licenses for the after-show-videos as well, because these are the main marketing tool to get people to buy tickets for the next event.
Stu, now please go for a walk and calm down. Touch a tree. Because you are resorting to ad hominem attacks against PK, which is not cool. You are wrong and he is right. Get a license, do want you want. Or pay a service like Mixcloud - which is my favourite. Their team has been very nice to me so far and I like to support them and their service, which is designed for us DJs.
Guys, be nice to each other on the forum. Life and the world may not always seem or be fair, but you have a choice to be a good person.
It’s not about that, it’s about him being literally anti every single thing that makes DJing what it is, whilst also trying to argue and talk down to every single person on this forum, constantly.
And I aren’t wrong, record labels pick and choose which content they allow and which they don’t, dependent on who is presenting it… and I’m purely talking about social media here, not festivals or anywhere else.
I could play a set on the Defected channel, or MAJ, or Mixmag or Boiler Room, could literally turn up tomorrow and do it… the video would stay up on YouTube, I then post the same set on my own channel and it’ll be removed. It’s utterly pathetic.
If I was earning money from it then fair enough, they have a right to some of those earnings, but on a non monetised video, what is the point of taking it down? What does it achieve? Why can’t you dispute it easily or explain your reasoning? (It’s basically impossible to counter it on YouTube).
It’s 2024 and these huge record labels think it’s still 1964. They are despised by their own artists and pretty much everyone else, look how many of them have been sued.
Another prime example of this hypocrisy, Sony are one of the main ‘copyright’ culprits, do not record or use our music… why then do they sell tape recorders? And dual deck ones at that?… because the £200 they make from the tape deck is more important than their supposed licensing high ground?
Most “big name” DJ’s play only their own music or from their own labels. No need to have it licensed then; and might I add, way more boring to listen to…
That’s the main difference regarding the DJ pool below those few, I guess. It has always been like that in a way as well. Known DJ’s got the vinyl or tracks for free and way in advance, while the normal folk needed to buy the music at a later less popular stage.
To me Reese, it doesn’t matter if you have 10 or 10 million followers, if you’re promoting their music for free by using it in a DJ set then they should ease off and let you do it.
The whole thing needs reform, whether it’s YouTube having a dedicated ‘DJ Mix’ video genre or something else I don’t know… but right now it’s a mess.
You get videos taken down for playing some 50yr old soul track nobody even knows, with warnings as if you’d just ripped off U2 or something.
