I’ve been waiting for the equipment to come back in stock for several months, and it’s impossible. It’s nowhere to be found: not Amazon, Sweetwater, Guitar Center, ProDJ Gear, Musicians Friend, etc. This is the same as the X1850 mixer… What’s going on? When will it be back in stock?
anyone who knows isn’t gonna spill the beans
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same her in Germany. Expected to be available in 12-22 weeks… But I can get you 1 or 2 used ones and an X1850, too, if you want them NOW.
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Thanks for the offer, but I need new ones. I wouldn’t want to buy a Pioneer either.
These guys are saying April Denon 2x SC6000 Players + X1850 Mixer Bundle Deal - The Disc DJ Store
I would imagine a replacement is likely incoming given the players are 5 years old unless Denon hid more secrets under the hood that they haven’t yet told us about maybe there is more RAM or something
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Prob no consolation but they’re in stock in Australia, 10 available across the two big DJ stores
Just a regular backorder… you have to wait for a new car too, dont you?
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At NAMM, the Denon Dj representative said that there will be surprises this year, that there are products in development now that the situation with Serato has been settled! At the moment, it seems to me that Denon Dj has given up on competing with Pioneer on the “industry standard” side for clubs and festivals. But I may be wrong. I’m waiting to see what they release this year…
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I hope you’re wrong, it would be a mistake to abandon the high-end Player line. For me, Denon should go for more, even revive the VL12 turntables, and stand up to Pioneer. 
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Regular backorder? it’s listed as “back in stock in 3 month” for about 6-8 month now for most shops. Haven’t seen a single one in stock for at least a 3/4 year
Not only stand up - just blow them away 
No chance if there is not a good mixer to compete with the A9! Only at home we get SC6000 with other mixer. The venues go for match and Denon only has the players, the mixer is far from what should be! So, no blow for now! On SC 6000 when in single player mode, we should have used that space on screen for something more and not to have everything bigger… Not to mention the app… 
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The important thing to note there is, for several years now, “Industry Standard” just means “out of date and about 5 years behind Prime technology and innovation”
Pros and cons Pasha. Neither is perfect and you know that.
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And wouldn’t it be a perfect, or at least better marketplace if people actually looked at the features offered on any deck or all-in-one, instead of just badge-buying
Theres more going on than badge buying. That was something that happened 20 years ago before the USB stick/Rekordbox era…
Today we are confronted with incompatibility issues between Rekordbox and Engine. And Engine players are nowhere to be found at gigs, unless you bring them yourself. So anyone who wants to use USB sticks, and wants to be compatible with the gear they encounter at gigs chooses Pioneer… And rental companies also provide Pioneer, because if they provide Engine gear, they will get complaints from all the Rekordbox users. Its a vicious circle…
I dragged my Traktor setup with me for about 17 years, and then switched to Denon: honestly, its a hassle: you have to connect and disconnect stuff on a live installation, with an active DJ, in front of a packed room. And with my SC6000 setup, Im dragging almost as much weight as in my vinyl days… But Traktor and the Engine range both have better features than even the CDJ3000….
Its a tuff choice, but I can honestly understand why someone would choose Rekordbox gear over Engine gear. You can throw any feature onto the Engine ecosystem (including stacked waveforms): it wont help, as the biggest downside of them all remains, and that is the library incompatibility… Fix this, and you’ll break Pioneers monopoly. (And sadly, for that same reason this will never happen)
PS: and regarding Pioneer not pushing new features, that’s not entirely true. Because, back when the market was still divided by Denon ruling the twin CD player market, and Pioneer ruling the tabletop market, Denon didn’t manage to make decent tabletops. That first Denon tabletop had a way too sensitive platter for pitch bending, like playing vinyl on JB Systems DJ1000’s. And Denon and Pioneer both began supporting MP3’s, first on CDs, than on USB. But Pioneer was the first that pushed librarian software (Rekordbox) to accompany it, making using MP3’s a lot less tedious… If Denon hit the ball regarding tabletops in the CD era, and subsequently was there with good librarian software, history could have turned different. Could have…
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None of that has anything to do with Pasha’s point though, which is that people should do their research before making a purchase, not invest 2 grand or whatever then come to the internet to make an over exaggerrated complaint about how their ‘massive investment’ is an utter fail because it cant do XYZ.
Its never been a better time in the history of the human race to obtain required information about a product before purchasing, there is literally no excuse not to.
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But if I were spending all that money on a flagship unit only to find I couldn’t rate a track on the player itself I’d be disappointed. It’s a basic thing that should be there by default. For example if you buy a car in 2025 you automatically assume it’ll have ABS.
Again people would rather have all the base features there than a lighting module.
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But the info is all there for you to research that before you buy, manuals are free to download, Youtube is free to watch, reviews are free to read, DJ stores are free to phone up and speak to (with the right phone contract)… if you want to rate a track on your device and cant live without it, buy a Pioneer/Alpha branded device, its really that simple.
Or file in a feature request, and wait a moment. Maybe sooner or later we can have it. As we know from the history of Engine Dj - developers are listening to us - users, and they do give us features we ask for. Maybe not in the pace or order we would like to, but they actually do. Many features, that were asked for in the past got implemented. If we are patient, we eventually get what we want. In my opinion, star rating is not a performance killer feature. So if it’s there - nice, if not, we can still play music without it. Not a show stopper.
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