Robot was too busy tapping the cue button and forgot about the jogwheels 
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I wonder if the cdj 3000 were just placeholders. Just something to say āwe released a deck in 2020ā.
It seems to have no significant new features, no usp , no wow factor.
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Canāt confirm that. Heās been cool & friendly in direct communication. It might just be that Pioneer DJ as a company has stricter rules for their forum that are enforced by him.
Their forums are about as open and unrestrictive as Denon DJās forums are now (correction: In 2022/2023, Denon DJās forum has reverted somewhat, but the statement was correct in 2020), but rather a kind of arrogance in the company culture that was oozing through on there. I think the mods have personally & individually improved slightly in the form of more humility and being less likely to pick (unwise) fights. Itās not quite that bad on that forum anymore as a result, though the company culture hasnāt changed a whole lot from what I can tell.
I was banned once for a comment on a defect in my xdj rx! without any motivation !! then when they changed the login procedure and unified the access system I was unlocked! but only because now I log in with facebook! otherwise i was still in pioneer prison! 
I can only speak of the fact that I have encountered some very disapproving criticism of said forum staff in various forums and discussions over the last years. Including here, in the comments below.
During my Pioneer times I was a frequent visitor in their forums, but never registered myself. The UI is quite weird, the atmosphere even more so, like short one-way threads that are getting closed again in the most cases. I really appreciate the Denon board here. I donāt know what forum software it is based on, but it has a modern, clear and responsive design. Also members and mods are really interacting with each other, exchanging experiences and ideas, like a real community should do. 
While not directly relevant with the new CDJ, I take aspects like these into account when opting for a brand.
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Finally a fair comparison between the CDJ3000 and the SC6000M
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What was unfair about the other earlier reviews ?
This one shows a l Pioneer guy vs a Denon guy. Both show honestly the pros and cons on both units. They make some real live tests (unplug power cable and usb key)ā¦etc
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After giving it more thought and understanding the CDJ3000 a bit more, I donāt think they are comparable. sure they are made to do the same things (more or less) and hence why we all, myself included, think of them as the same but they really are not in the same class. I am not implying that one is in a higher class than the other.
With the price of the Pioneer CDJ and DJMs always going up on every release, they are now arguably, truly, aimed at the businesses and not so much every DJ who has a passion for the art and wants to own top of the line gear.
One thing remains the same, and that is the face that people will continue to compare the two due to their similarities but if you start with the price point, I think it would be silly to continue to compare them to one another with the purpose of crowning one as better than the other.
Not sure if this is a good example or not but for me, Pioneer CDJ 3000s are now a luxury item in the sense that I am paying for the name in that price also. Denon SC6000s are going to do the exact same thing (and then some) for a more affordable price.
I am still hoping Denon can market their Prime line up well enough to put a big dent in Pioneer.
In my humble opinion, I donāt think Denon is doing a great job with their marketing; more can be done to educate the DJs out there who are not as geeky as some of us who know for a fact the SC5000/6000s are far more capable products than any other product out there to date.
Just my thoughtsā¦
The primes are in the hands of every mobile, radio and home DJ
The pioneer is in clubs
But the clubs are empty and the clubs are flat broke out of money
The covid is terrible at every level but I can see it being a perfect fuel for prime ownership today, leading to a DJ preference in clubs in the future
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just read this very thread.
I think they should be comparedā¦Pioneer hasnāt been the leader for that long. Look at Technics 1200, they have been the standard since the 70ās. Once the transition happened from vinyl to digital Pioneer took the crown, whyā¦reliabilityā¦same reason Technics has been the standard for such a long timeā¦If Denon focuses first on reliability, but continues to innovate and push the boundaries, there is no reason why they cant take over that segment. Remember, many different mixers have come and gone in that same time frame, all options are on the tableā¦the key is reliabilityā¦make it bulletproof, good firmware and there is no reason to not become number 1! The biggest complaint I have heard from many DJās is the feel of the cue/play buttons on the Denon gearā¦Other than than that they seem to love them, but that has been the single biggest reason they wouldnāt switch to the Denonā¦its a big thing for many DJās that feel when cuing up a track.
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Yes, this one seems much more balanced and I love their humor. Taking smaller details into account, like the feeling of the Pitch slider and the fact, that the zero-position LED is actually useful on the Denon. Also putting that emergency loop of the Pioneer into absolute shame. While the CDJ indeed provides the better screen brightness, this must be clearly acknowledged.
I regard the Prime units just as suitable for the clubs as the CDJs, not solely for mobile DJs or āprosumersā as they call them. Engine Prime as preperation software still needs some work, but has greatly improved since 2017 and the hardware itself is absolutely stable. Hope to see more variation in the booths again in future.
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WHOS DOING THE MATHS AT PIONEER dj?
$2,300 United States Dollar equals
Ā£1,775.15 Pound sterling
so for a pair of cdj300 in the UK, we are being forced to stump up an extra Ā£800 over the price in Dollars? How do they even come up with that??? Daylight robbery
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This must be pioneer continuing their game of pricing something at an overkill price of $2500 will make people believe that itās worth $2500
That way when people look at any cheaper deck , people are supposed to think the cheap deck is missing or lacking somehow.
All thatās lacking with primes is not as much overkill profit like the pioneers have.
US prices exclude sales tax. UK prices include VAT. Factor that in and itās at Ā£2130. Itās also more expensive to support products in the UK - stronger consumer protection laws etc.
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Yāall n the UK are screwed over by VAT. In the USA, sales tax floats around 7% and is not included in the price. Total USD is around $2,470 (1,913 in UK). Huh, after checking the current VAT rate, it looks like Pioneer is still overcharging UK citizens by Ā£224.
You could have ended the sentence there lol
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