Wait until problems start to occur to its internal components and then you will see it thrown away at history’s garbage can, replaced by some new model, but still no service manual available so you can take care of it and retain its value.
No.
The Engine Software, that we can install on our windows PCs and Macs is called Engine Prime now and will still be called Engine Prime in the years to come, as far as we’ve been told.
Engine OS is the new name for the firmware inside the Prime hardware/gear.
And what did I said above about internal Engine software?
When you install a Prime series firmware, you actually install several software components to the hardware.
You need to be more straight when talking about hardware (you can touch it) , firmware (it’s 0s and 1s inside the chips inside the hardware, and software (it’s inside a windows PC or Mac computer, those being the options for Engine Prime)
And service manuals, any authorised repair Center should hold one for each product. But they’re probably told not to sell them or show them to anyone.
The more advanced stuff gets the less likely that just anyone will be able to make repairs, even with a Service manual. One example of that, some of the screens on modern kit are heat sealed to the front glass/plastic window. You have to have a specific sized heat pad pressed against the front of the screen glass for several minutes in order to unadhere the screen from the front glass.
It’s not just a case of having the right hex key and the 2018 edition security bits and knowing how to read the color bands on resistors any more. I don’t intend that to sound mean, but the service manuals today aren’t as helpful, on their own, as service manuals for more basic electronics from even a decade ago.
A service manual can be as detailed as the manufacturer wants it to be. There are service operations that can be labeled by job difficulty and specified what can be done by the user and what requires special equipment and tools. In my country, at least, there are electronics repair service centers who have good technicians and equipments required to perform very difficult service repairs. When you have an out of warranty product you don’t always go to the dealer’s service or send the product in some foreign country to be repaired, unless it is absolutely necessary. I, for one, am confident enough to get my hands “dirty” and service the equipments I own. I really don’t understand this secrecy and reluctance to release the service manuals.
Why would you send a repair to a foreign country? Did you buy your Prime 4 while you were visiting aboard?
I would if the service center is better, why not? Better wait longer and have it done, than have a sloppy job and complain on it, have issues, etc… if there is a reliable service center, than go for it.
I want something halfway between the size of the GO and the Prime 2, with full size pitch faders, and no battery.
Like I said, the firmware ought to be named Prime OS. Engine OS is needlessly confusing.
The MCX8000 runs on Engine OS (firmware) also. That doesn’t mean this unit will receive a firmware update with the “new OS”, although with future Engine Prime development, it might. But, logically, it shouldn’t be any confusions about the two environments, because anyone who do their homework will understand that Engine OS runs inside the audio hardware equipment and Engine Prime software application will run on computers.
It does? My understanding is that its firmware is different but that Engine Prime has the capability to create a database and do loops/cues/etc for the MCX8000… there’s actually a little setting in EP for that. Where did you get the information that the MCX8000 uses the same firmware (what InMusic is now calling Engine OS) as the Prime players? Is that in a press release?
I didn’t said that MCX8000 is running on Engine OS literally, just that its internal “propulsion” is also called Engine (firmware) and it might create the hope for its users for future firmware updates based on the new Engine OS.
You literally said that.
Nonetheless, let’s just say you misstated something… no big deal. Where is the thing about the MCX8000 firmware being called “Engine”? You’re not just talking about them referring to the MCX8000’s use of Engine and Engine Prime? Because that still would be slightly curious.
Weird. That indeed might explain this confusing trend for why they’ve chosen to call the Prime firmware Engine OS. It’s not like you can DJ off their computer software, though. What an odd choice of naming, but Engine OS for the Primes does seem a little less out of character for InMusic now that you point that out.
I suppose that’s because the advanced audio hardware lineup is called Prime and the software that runs under it its basically an Engine developed especially for the Prime audio equipment, hence the final title of Engine Prime, both for the database preparation and management software and the hardware operating system.
I AM impressed they put booth outs on this tiny little guy (Go). That’s one thing Denon does right on their smaller stuff. I tell ya the more I think about it I have a feeling the Go is gonna reach cool looking’ gadget status. It’s a slick looking device. I think lots of non-DJs will be picking one of these up too.
You really think so? With platters that small and pitch faders especially that short, I would think the only ones effectively targeted by it would have to be people accustomed to using BPM counters and/or sync, in which case they’re going to be able to choose a wide variety of laptops and controllers to fit their needs better. The GO seems like a novelty device to me that would be awkward to manually mix on by-ear as I do on the Versadeck when I need to go real portable.
We played on smaller jogs and without sync and without BPM readout on old dual decks with a jog of a size of a cookie, and still made it right. So what is the problem?
You shouldn’t be impressed by a feature that should be perfectly normal and default on any pro-grade equipment.
But this baby will have its supporters also in the gadget hungry world. Just the fact that it can be used standalone is enough to keep someone awake.
The pitch fader is a more serious issue for me than the jog size, but the jog size could also be slightly larger.