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2017 rather. Good spot.

From launch the engine prime product was advertised as future proof and over engineered.

Future proof means expect software and feature updates.

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I remember when the mutli-core nature of the SoC was part of the advertisements :stuck_out_tongue:

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From the outset the SOC used was not really powerful enough, and with the lack of RAM it compounded the issue.

Thats appears to have been addressed with the System One as it is very fast and smooth as silk.

Both were fine at the time of design - some 18 to 24 months prior to release.

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Or InMusic has decided to discontinue the DenonDJ brand, like Pioneer did with Pioneer DJ.

That’s also a possibility… since there’s no official statement.

It is what it is.

They ā€œcouldā€ go high end with Rane and low end with Numark and leave nothing in the middle but that’s highly unlikely.

Agreed it’s been well over a year since the Prime Go plus which was on the old SOC but I’m utterly convinced a new all singing all dancing Prime 4 is not far away.

Seeing the vast improvement in the System One which is utterly brilliant they’re not going to keep that for one brand or controller.

Completely different incomparable circumstances and you know it.

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Extract from my chat with support. Those saying Engine has been left behind can read this.

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Now just leave me alone… :zany_face:

The only thing we know is what’s there… Everything else is wishful thinking.

Hey, JK, i’m referring to my Technics tables.

Unless it’s chosen with a significant over-engineered design and substantial performance and power reserves (meaning at least a mid-range SoC across all brands), no SoC is truly future-proof.

It will be future-proof for 2-3 years if it’s entry-level, for 5 years if it’s mid-range, and perhaps for 10 years if it’s high-end at the time of product design. These are arbitrary timeframes chosen to illustrate the point so everyone understands that ā€œfutureproofā€ is a relative concept to the type of chips used, not a scientific one.

The 3288 may have been Rockchip’s high-end offering in 2016/2017 (though this needs further verification), but it was an entry-level SoC compared to those from other manufacturers.

It was chosen because it met the specifications, both in terms of cost and because it appeared sufficient at the design stage for the needs of the final product, but its power headroom/reserve was relatively small. It was clearly not an oversized SoC designed to be future-proof over a 10-year or longer timeframe.

It’s exactly the same for the RK3588; it meets the same specifications for 2025/2026, but in 6 or 7 years, with the addition of new features/algorithms that consume CPU and memory resources, it will be just as sluggish as our current old RK3288. Especially considering the measly 4GB of RAM it has.

Is your Engine Hardware sluggish? Honest question. Mine all runs great.

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A lot of speculation in this thread, but also some very sane information. What I will tell you is all I can tell you, so don’t @ me about your specific feature request etc please!

  • Current Engine hardware is not dead, it will continue to receive updates (I can’t tell you when exactly). Rane is just one of the inMusic brands that we have our software running on, it just happens to be the first one of it’s kind
  • We don’t have a large team and it has taken us a lot of work to get the System One to where you see it now, we have more hardware in the works, but I will not share a timeline for when you’ll see that
  • Yes the rest of the ecosystem will benefit from some of the features we built for the System One, again there is no fixed timeline or set of features I can share with you
  • Your feature requests are read and understood if you have been through the standard voting process, we just can’t implement them all. Some of them contradict each other and others are too niche for instance, but you should recognise that there are a few of those top requests being brought to life in the System One, so know that we are listening and responding, though we have to mix the business interests along with those requests as well

Hope you’re all happy and healthy, carry on the debate, but always remember there’s a human on the other end of that debate, we can all benefit from kindness and respect!

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Thanks Mike, keep up the great work :+1:t3:

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It works, but there are occasional slowdowns when navigating the library, switching between playlists, especially for playlists with a large number of tracks. This is particularly true on the linked player, which is also limited by the 100 Mbps Ethernet connection.

We’ve clearly reached the absolute limits of what the RK3288 platform and its 2GB of RAM can offer.

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Similar slowdown of browsing on the Prime Go+, glitchy waveforms at points and tracks cutting out when a new file is loaded. I use video files and it’s clear the unit is running out of RAM. No issues so far on the System One however.

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Thanks for your as open and transparent as you could be respons!

One might actually consider joining the small team. Software Developer C++ Pro Audio - Cambridge, UK | inMusic Careers

And thats not just limited to this community.

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Lately, I’ve been using EngineDJ on my P4+ more and more.

Especially when the matching function for Tracks ( Library ) is activated, I’ve noticed that the screen freezes briefly during updates. For about 2 to 3 seconds.

But honestly: That doesn’t bother me at all. Even if the waveform stutters a bit, I couldn’t care less. As long as the sound is good. And in this respect, DenonDJ is clearly, very clearly, superior to Pioneer for me anyway.

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Get out of here with your rational and professional response. /s

TY and to all those behind the scenes.

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You’re a gem bro. <3

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