I see everyone is rushing to buy System One! The Pioneer DJ school works, do you want the new features? Give me your money. I have two Prime 4 Pluses, a Prime Go Plus, and a Mixstream Pro. I wouldn’t pay 2,500 euros for the new features.
Can you explain clearly what exactly it is that you’re complaining about here? because im completely lost.
You’ve already been told that your gear isnt being left behind and that version 4.5 is highly likely being developed and tested for older devices as we speak, so what exactly is your beef here? The more you type, the less sense you are making, therefore leading people to turn away from responding to you, which then leads to you just spamming the void as it were.
I don’t care about responses from people who don’t understand what I mean.
This forum is called enginedj dot com, not denondj dot com.
It’s for all products using the Engine system, whiich includes Numark, Rane and Denon DJ.
If you look at the feature request area, it does not say “feature requests for Denon DJ only”. It’s feature requests for the Engine system - which applies to Rane, Numark and Denon DJ.
Also, from the forum guidelines:
“Please don’t complain if a feature is not implemented yet”
Whispers and rumors. No useful information for Prime customers.
The company have never released information about forthcoming firmware updates in Engine to the general public, we’re now on 4.4 and and it hasn’t been a thing since the very beginning, so why would they start now?
You can apply to be a voluntary beta tester by following a link on one of the forum threads on here (which should be easily searchable) if you want visibility of upcoming releases.
This is the point, you aren’t going to get a response, because nobody can understand what you mean, because you aren’t making any sense, or answering any questions you’re being asked. I think homeland has the right idea here and that is just to back away from the discussion, probably for the sake of their own sanity.
bye bye goodbye everyone
There was no new Denon product in 2025! And don’t expect to see any new ones in 2026! But if you want you can give them 2500 euros for a Rane System One 
! denon is perfectly following alphateta’s waves
Latest, i can see on download page is 4.3.4.
Yes, you are correct i had the wrong version number.
But you don’t know what you’re talking about? Frogs were recently added, while the requests are from 2020. Until 20 days ago, rane users didn’t even know what engine dj was, and didn’t make any of these requests. Since you’re all such know-it-alls, show me a post with a request from a Rane user! If you find one, let me know! Obviously, the post must be from before System One came out. I bet I’ve silenced you now.
You said goodbye earlier. I thought you were leaving.
Frogs? What have frogs got to do with anything? (Ah, Italian for frogs is rane)
Yes the requests were initiated in 2020 - but as already explained, these requests are for Engine. This is an Engine forum.
Here’s the request:
Show me where it says Denon DJ.
But did you go to school or not? Tell me when a Rane user requested the RGB waveforms? Never! Until 20 days ago Rane didn’t have the Engine system on board! Do you understand or not? I think you don’t understand! And you keep saying that the requests concern the Engine, in fact Rane has never had the Engine, and why would they have requested the RGB shapes if they never had a display on board? Come on, enlighten me with your wisdom
If you cannot understand simple logic, it’s not my problem.
Of course Rane users did not request RGB waveforms in 2020 - because at that time Rane did not have a standalone unit running Engine.
Now Rane does have a standalone unit running Engine - and because this is an Engine forum, which is not restricted to Denon DJ users, inMusic (who own Rane) are perfectly within their rights to add RGB waveforms to one of their Engine products.
Show me where inMusic have said it’s only for Rane users. Show me where inMusic have said it will not come to Denon DJ or Numark products.
At this point I understand that you deserve to spend money and give it to a company that preferred to prioritize users who hadn’t made requests, rather than trying to satisfy users who have been asking for features since 2020! You’re really smart! Everyone, no exceptions! Come on, open your wallets, what are you waiting for? This is exactly the philosophy of Alphateta that you criticize so much! Congratulations, you’re really smart!
We’ll see you again in a bit, when you’ll have to spend some of your money to get the new features.
Can you leave now, please, as you have already announced?
I am normally a very patient and chill guy, but this circus is getting ridiculous.
If you believe AlphaTheta gives you better customer support and software updates, nobody is holding you back. Best luck on your journey.
It’s called freedom of thought and speech! Ban if it bothers you.