Move the CUE POINT at the start of the track

Hi there… Well, yes, I know how to move the CUE POINT ( I mean the one near the PLAY button) at the beginning of the track, BUT, each time I reload the same track the CUE POINT is elsewhere… Can you tell me how to solve this dumb problem? Thanks!

Lots of factors might determine that, you will need to provide much more info on your workflow in order to diagnose the issue.

Maybe you have marked ‘move cue to loop in’ in options?

Well. I don’t see all of this mistery in this thing… I mean, I LOAD a track and the CUE is where I last saw it in the middle of the track… So I set it at the track start, I play the track and I load another one… When I get to the previous track the CUE is still in the middle of the track… That’s it!

By doing what? Are you saving a hot cue or just pressing the cue button? There’s a difference.

As I told, I moved the CUE to the beginning of the track by using the << and the PRESSing the CUE button at that point… That’s it…Am I missing something? Maybe… Please tell me what is your procedure to set the CUE at the beginning of the song so when you reload it the CUE is at the starting position, first beat… Thank you!

When you set the CUE, do you see that beatmarker turning into number 1?

Is the grid locked or does this occur in every track? Maybe share a video?

So…you’re not saving a cue. You’re just setting a temporary one. Pressing the cue button does not save cues.

It’s probably a good idea for you to read the manual.

But they’re not talking about hot cues, because Engine OS does not have an option to jump to a hot cue on load.

This temporary cue is not temporary at all though, because Engine OS saves it and jumps to it the next time you load the track. I don’t get this design decision, why would I want to start playing from a random point that I set the last time I played the track?

For this, change “Track Start Position” to “Track Start” instead of “CUE Position”.

I place the first hot cut to the first “beat” of the track and have “Cue Position” set as the load point and it always loads to the first beat of the track.

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And yes, I was talking about the TEMPORARY CUE and not HOT CUE, which I’ve never mention anywhere here… And I agree what Erik said, why that behaviour? Anyway I’ll try what Reese suggested in his post… Thank you!

Could be a couple of things in your workflow. Speaking from my own experience:

  • If you have set “move cue to loop in point” (which you should for a couple of other reasons), the cue point will be moved when you use a loop when mixing away that track. Result is the cue point is moved and saved when you reload the track.
  • For safety reasons I used to press pause instead of cue when I want to stop a track. When I would accidently stop the wrong track, I can very quickly press play again. If I would have pressed cue, I would have to start the track over again, with a bunch of funny looks… Thing is, this action moves and saves the cuepoint. As of now I am holding the platter instead, but even this moves the cuepoint if I subsequently press play while holding the platter. Well, release the platter and then press cue works…
  • I’m sure other users can come up with other scenarios where the cue point is moved and saved.

I personally do not believe in the way Inmusic implemented how you save the playheads CUE point: it kind of goes automatically, but this also means its automatically moved by your workflow. In Traktor this is done better IMHO, because there, you will have to explicitly save a cue point as the “load marker”. In Traktor you are quite unable to move that load marker by accident.

(Myself Im going to look at the track start option, learned something new it seems. And then use the first hotcue as my load marker, Ill just have to press that hotcue after loading)

Anyway the suggestion from Reese only solved the problem partially… Yes, the track is always loaded from start, BUT the infamous CUE point is still all over the place… Also noticed that when I play on the media player (SC5000) and I move the CUE to the start of the track the next time I reload the same track WITHOUT SYNCing with ENGINE SW the CUE is still where I last placed it, at the beginning… So not as I told at the beginning of this thread, I’m SORRY… Now comes the interesting part… If at the end of the session I use ENGINE SW to sync all of my digital media (SD CARDs) the CUE point are back to the place where they were before, all over the place… And, by the way, I use ENGINE SW mainly for SYNCing pourposes and I never SYNC from the collection on the PC HD to the media but viceversa, SD CARD to PC, to keep the PC collection up to date… BUT, since I have 2 SD CARDs I have to SYNC both with the collection and then back from the collection to the SD CARD to keep both the cards synced together… So, I think that is this step that is messing up the CUE point position… Hope this make sense…

It sounds/looks like you need to ‘sync to engine DJ’ before syncing to the media drive. That way any changes you made during the set are saved back to the software before you overwrite them.

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I don’t set temporary cues during performance. I use hot cues for that. So my temporary cue is always at the first beat.

What STU says about sync to EngineDJ could be it. I don’t use sync. My collection is on the device and not my computer.

@amarillis_amarillis

I think it refers to selecting the Cue point automatically when you load a song, in rekordbox there is an option that allows you to always start from the first hotcue, it is a long debate, but if it is true that it has improved a lot in recent years, it would be nice if You will vote for this improvement, it would be nice to have one more option. when adjusting the Cué at the beginning of the charge.

https://community.enginedj.com/t/play-from-the-first-hot-cue/41670?u=ren3martin

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The problem you are experiencing is a problem that occurs when you stop your track using the cue button.

Either because you paused before pressing Cue, or because you press cue twice to stop playback (the first press stops playback, the second press places a new cue point at the location where playback is stopped)

This is something that happens to me often too.

In this case you must ensure that you replace the cue point at the start of the track otherwise the next time you load the track, the cue point will remain where you stopped it.

So the problem is in the way you work

And that is exactly what I do before changing to another track… I always ensure that the CUE point is at the start of the track… But, after syncing with ENGINE OS this is no more where the CUE was placed by me… Anyway, I thank you all for the support you gave me… I will give a try to your suggestions and see what happen… CIAO

What is this temporary cue people speak of ? I thought all cue’s were saved. The main Cue-button cue, and hot cues.