More Waveform Zoom Out is Needed - Prime 4+ (Match Pioneer)

Agreed, when playing open-format for functions, playing songs that are new or just something not in your go-to list, it is just not feasible to know every single track.

Moin @MrWilks,

to avoid this problem, I zoom in and I concentrate on the down beats, the red markers :innocent:

phps this trick can assist you a little.

Enjoy Whitsuntide, phps on board and brgds BeatMaster

Overview waveform is your friend in that situation.

You’ve said that already, but, sometimes overview just isn’t enough detail. Sure, you can have a good guess but the tracks don’t always follow traditional timings among other track nuances. Even yesterday playing a function that went really well, there was a lot of guess work like “that looks like it could be 32 bars there for me to mix in” but had to use beat jump a few times because it was off. It would just make it a lot smoother and take some of the guess work out and make the event more enjoyable to play.

I’ve said it already because it’s an effective way of mapping out the structure of an unknown track.

It sounds like what you need is a large laptop to DJ with if you’re still not getting enough info from the GUI provided here.

I always chuckle at these kind of posts where it comes across as some kind of mansplaning to someone they assume doesn’t use the equipment. Guess what, I download and play brand new music at gigs all the time, and guess what, I don’t struggle with being able to mix them together with the wealth of information being provided by these modern DJ units.

DJs have never had it better than we do today, with large high definition displays and lots of different ways of making our lives easier. And yet some of you are still struggling to perform :man_shrugging:

And you even have the ability to beat jump through a track to listen to the closing section if it’s really that much of a struggle to work out where to mix, it’s a single touch on the aforementioned overview waveform to skip to any part of the track you desire…. This is what headphone cueing was invented to do.

We’re drifting into offtopic again, guys. This thread is about more zoom-out option, not how everybody does his DJ routines.

Don’t need it, don’t use it.

As @MrWilks pointed out, the single decks allow for a wider zoom out, so there is no reason to not allow this for the all-in-one systems as well. I certainly wouldn’t mind having a bit more ahead-waveform-data myself. 79 votes are nothing to sneeze at. But yeah, maybe better to close this thread and move the discussions to said request thread.

Playhead marker more to the left would also be helpful (for most DJs, not everyone though, hence getting an option would be best)

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Agree on both points, I was merely offering alternative suggestions for how to view the mapping of a track without that feature present. I always like to work on how things work today with the assumption a DJ needs to use the software today, and how they can utilise current functionality to solve a problem.

We have to work on the assumption that no feature requests will be implemented until the day they are implemented, assuming that everyone wants to use their gear in its current form, and not lock it in a cupboard until their ‘must have’ request is either implemented or not implemented.

I do use it, regularly. And was never saying for me it is a deal breaker. One of the reasons I got the Prime 4+ is because it can have an internal drive for complete stand alone use and leave the laptop at home. Would be nice to have a stand alone have this feature.

This thread was just a suggestion.

I’m happy to close this thread off and keep discussion in the open feature request.

I recently purchased the Prime 4+ to complement my SC6000, which offers the ability to zoom in on the waveform—a feature I find essential to my DJing workflow. Unfortunately, the lack of this functionality on the Prime 4+ has significantly impacted my experience and made it frustrating to use, as I can only view 2-3 bars at a time. This limitation is disruptive enough that I am already considering switching to the XDJ-AZ.

Implementing the ability to zoom on the Prime 4+ seems like a straightforward update, especially since the SC6000 already has this capability. I strongly urge Denon to address this as it would dramatically improve the usability of the Prime 4+ for DJs who rely on detailed waveform views.

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Please Denon, we are really waiting for that <3

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