It’s like DMC scratch DJing. Love watching them for the technical skills, but you couldn’t have a night of that. You want a DJ that is going to get the flow right and control the ebbs and flows. When do you go to the bog with a DJ that is the show, not the music?
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Definitely in certain circles - I saw A.M.C. a couple of years ago (often held up as being someone at the top of the game) and it was just ADHD music - don’t think a single tune played out for more than 30 seconds, constant doubling and tripling, drop switch, fake drop, drop switch again - technically really impressive, but absolutely no way I could dance to it.
It’s like DMC scratch DJing. Love watching them for the technical skills, but you couldn’t have a night of that.
Exactly this! Compare also those guitar bands who just devolve into 20-minute solo wankery - just ego stroking.
It’s only really rife in certain circles of DnB though, but probably the biggest - jump up and “mainstream” festival type DJs. That’s one of the main reasons I really like the minimal scene, it feels much more like the DnB I fell in love with (even if it’s not “minimal” by the measure of any other scene 
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100% on this, I like to hear a track play out as the artist intended… with nice smooth mixing.
DJing is a bit like sport, its becoming ‘over coached’ to the extreme if that makes sense, like everything is on steroids now, you can do double drops, ill do triple drops, oh yeah well im gonna do quadruple drops cos my dad is bigger than yours, and im gonna do it for an hour solid too. Its exhausting.
Im loving the liquid stuff these days, you can still hear the Bukem influence in there too which is crazy. The 4hero mix of black gold of the sun is still one of my favourite all time tracks.
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I don’t usually listen to or play much liquid, but we did a Sunday afternoon a couple of weeks ago which was all liquid/soulful stuff and I enjoyed it more than I expected - playlist with a few of the tracks I played Unsupported browser - could definitely see myself getting more into it.
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Nice, i dont have spotify but ill see if i can still have a listen through.
This is one of the channels i follow, excellent stuff. There are a few ‘live’ channels which broadcast 24/7 on Youtube too, they are pretty good.
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I presume you follow this @STU-C?
Runs 24/7
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Ahhhh i thought i had it subbed but seems not, re adding… i defo listen to it, and another one called Pulse maybe? ill check my list (following about 200 channels so things can get lost at times)
Your 100% right.
I’m not personally into liquid that much, I have a few classics in my collection but I’m more of the harder jungle/d&b.
If I do fancy a mellow mix these 2 are about as mellow as I get 
Which are both on the same album, then after a while I’ll end up slapping this because the neighbors love it as much as I do (I believe) 
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Tell you one of my fave albums back in the day, Cyantific - Ghetto Blaster… absolute weapon.
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I don’t mind regarding this topic, but it is kinda going off-topic. 
On that note, personally as a DJ, I think it’s boring and tiresome to listen to these type of DJ’s. Indeed like DMC, you could call it a certain skill.
Each to their own of course. Times have simply changed. The “listening to a DJ” has become “watching a DJ”. Peeps want to be entertained and even record the whole show with their smartphone. Nowadays they would find my DJ style boring as f***. 
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Yes, watching the DJ seems to have become the norm now - at least in online clips.
So many people just standing around the DJ booth, facing and/or filming the DJ rather than getting down on the dance floor.
Sorry @Reese 
Yeah in my raving days mid 90s onwards it was about the musical journey (not that I remembered much of it the next day) I don’t think I knew what the DJs looked like for the first 5 years, everyone was just raving.
I actually went to a day rave last year, AMC was there & everyone was like moths with their phones just staring at the lights while the music was bang bang drop, drop drop bang, I was like ■■■ is this.
I’m actually going to another day rave in April, Virus. so I’m hoping it’ll be more like I remember.
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When I was younger I was the most hated dj because I won unique bids like like the mile high club and playing at a place with revolving dance floor over a lake and other stuff. All nda of course so forgive me for not giving more details but I have photographs of it my that son and my fam are proud of.
This was at a time where you needed a camera because the iPhone and the like didn’t exist.
I was a pioneer dj then.
I look at this thread and it reminds me of all the bullying I received because of it.
We shouldn’t talk much of these young’ns when they are growing because when it happened to me it got physical a few times.
If “Mr Hype “ was using inmusic gear then there would be praises sung of him using the Denon ecosystem with engine lightning.
Unfortunately he supposedly said he discovered something new because he knows nothing else than what he was provided by his sponsors. This is because he’s young!
There’s nothing wrong with James Hype or his style. He’s doing what he loves to do at this time and point in his life and getting paid for it like anyone of us would want to. It seems he’s happy with it and his following is too.
Would I follow him? He’s not my genre, but I don’t mind watching what others are doing though.
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He’s 35!!! He was being true to his name, and the society that we live in, that everything is about hype, not reality.
I went to Camelphat at the WHP last year and it was exactly the same, phones everywhere on the dance floor and everyone cramming in like it’s a concert, not a rave, so dancing space was certainly not respected.
Even in its heyday at Cream, you could have a boogie on the dance floor, including when Oakey was in the Annexe and it was absolutely rammed.
Yes the World has changed, it just feels like Gen Z seem to be having fun with the handbrake on….
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I fully appreciate the skill involved in what he does, my issue is doing it solidly for an hour or two, it gets a bit repetitive and can take away from the actual music imo.
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I dare to remind you of the legendary mix of Jeff Mills, 60 records in 30 minutes, something like that. Or was it Juan Atkins? 
In general, one of the legendary techno DJs. I think you understand. 
Jeff Mills, Carl Cox DJ Trix, all using 3 or 4 decks. Difference being that they created music with their mixing and tricks, so it flowed. The beat juggling using pads and hot cues now, the loop at 1/16th, it’s good once in a set, but tedious for the entire time.
For the record, I actually never really liked Jeff Mills that much as he was off beat so often trying to mix 4 decks, and saw him loads at The Orbit in Morley. Sven Väth was miles better, those nights went off!!!
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Legendary venue, a lot of the older lads in my town went there.
Crazy memories and best nights I ever went to there, with the friendliest crowd. Cream, Haç, Ministry, I’d take Orbit every time (except the night I met the Mrs in Cream).
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