Hey guys, I recently upgraded from the “Advanced” to the “Professional” subscription on Beatport. How can I verify that I am receiving the higher quality audio on-player? I have SC6000. I was thinking maybe somewhere in the track info panel but I don’t see it.
I would like to verify on-player just for my own peace of mind that I am getting what I pay for at $30/month.
If this is not possible, I will create a feature request.
I don’t think there is a direct way to check this in Engine, but you can try recording the output and place the recorded file in https://www.spek.cc/
Theoretically 320kbps mp3s should cap at 20kHz and lossless files should exceed 20kHz, going to 22kHz.
Please keep in mind I never tried the advice I’m giving, I just use the app to check my audio files to see if lossless files are really lossless and if mp3 are really 320kbps
Just bear in mind that there’s no guarantee of a file being 320k or lossless, just by looking at the frequency content.
TBH I don’t think it’s very likely there would be much audio content at those really high frequencies, regardless of track encoding, as adults generally can’t hear that high.
Actually when I read the first post yesterday, I was inclined to write that you should just listen to the tracks, as in: If you can’t hear that it’s better, then there’s not much point paying the extra money. 
Yeah I know, I just have OCD about direct verification if that makes sense. They breakdown the quality like so:
So I want to be absolutely sure that I’m getting at least the 256 AAC. I have noticed in some of my mix recordings that the Beatport tracks are noticeably lower quality than music I have purchased from Beatport playing directly from my USB. Pretty much transition from one track that sounds amazing to one that is a bit muddy or fuzzy.
Really, there should be a way to verify on-device just for peace of mind.
I am about the record my first mix on the upgraded program, so we will see…
Thank you I did not know about this website. Will give it a try today.
I don’t write code, but it seems like having the software not only display the bit rate but analyze for it should not be too hard since it’s been baked into every DJ software program I’ve ever used. Hard to understand why the software engineers ignore this oversight.
It’s probably worth mentioning that the track encoding quality on various tiers of these services will likely be an “up to” thing, not a guarantee that every single track they have will be encoded that way. It depends on what they’re given (or allowed) by the artist/label.
And if playing at a gig absolutely no one would hear the difference anyway or even care.
Give them a break.
Have you seen how many feature requests are still active?
Every update they implement new features. They can only work on a hand of features for each update and they need to strike a balance between features for each type of dj, each trend in DJing, basic, advanced features or even gimmicks to attract more people to Denon gear.
I just started learning programming and I can already see how hard it can get when stacking features.
I’m also waiting for more quality of life features to be implemented but as it stands the features present are very solid.
One more thing: If your can’t distinguish the qualify of tracks and need software to show it to you, how will the crowd ever notice?
I’m not riding them hard. (I rarely even post!) Give me a break. My take is merely that adding this capability seems like “low hanging fruit” in the this software space. Add it. Who cares how many are requesting it in comparison to other “features.” The primary function for good DJ software is making music library management as easy and functional as possible for a broad spectrum of end users. People who don’t care can hide the column like any other column that they have no use for.
Checking the settings in Beatport on the device matches your streaming plan is the best way.
When you select Beatport as a music source, there is an icon of a cog (it used to be bottom left). When you select this cog you should see your bitrate. You may need to change this to the plan you’ve paid for.
I’m going from memory as it was a few years ago since I last subbed to Beatport.
Hi you can definitely tell by just the loudness.
If you have decent sound system. You will know.
Am having problem where loading very slowly even if I have played them previously an Denon has analysed the file.
Sometimes taking 3 / 4 mins to load a track a really annoying.
And now high quality FLAC has been added with Engine OS V4.2 so if you update you will now be able to stream in much better quality.
That is not true. I just converted a flac to mp3. Here’s the waveform statistics of the original flac:
And this is the converted mp3:
Momentary, short-term and integrated loudness are exactly the same. There are only some minor differences in the peaks, but our ears are not so sensitive for that.
The Prime 4 has a not too subtle roll-off in the high end. Here’s the frequency response according to RMAA:
Assuming that the SC6000 also has this, I suspect it would be hard to judge from the frequency response whether a source is lossy or lossless.
That’s quite dramatic!
I’ve heard massive improvement on my system.
But have careful As sometimes with being louder thing it’s better quality when it isn’t.
Also the denon sc6000 output is way behind a pioneer cdj3000 output.
Both in loudness an sound quality
With your last remark, do you mean that we perceive louder as better? Because that would definitely be true. This is why matching loudness is crucial when comparing 2 fragments of audio. But as shown, converting to lossless doesn’t affect loudness, so this would be irrelevant for this situation.
Nice room you have there. I don’t see any acoustical treatment though, which makes it not suitable for critical listening. We can test here how well we are able to perceive differences between lossy and lossless. Most people find it a lot harder than they thought it would be.
Sound treatment behind me an above me
An yes I mean loudness. I’d say there at least 1db higher in the flac from the 256acc flies which was previous best you could get from beatport streaming.
Can notice bass is little deeper a top also little higher.
But again this on some tracks if been badly mastered it’s alway going sound crap
