Hi all,
I was wondering if mixed in key app is supported by engine prime. I am trying to export the cue points and energy levels to engine prime directly from mixed in key, but no luck. With serato dj pro I could do it. I could export the cue points and energy levels from mixed in key. Also try to export the cue point and energy level from serato to engine prime, but only the energy levels were exported, the cue points were not. Does anyone know how to make them? Thanks!!
No, no cue point import via MiK. Engine Prime doesnât have an energy column in the software, but you can write energy rating to the comments. It does read the key info though but you must turn off Auto Analysis in the options before importing tracks otherwise it will use itâs own algorithm (which isnât as accurate as MiK) to decide what the key of the track is.
You can import the cue points (or you used to be able to) but you have to push them through Serato first, then import the tracks out of Serato. Bit of a pain really
I now use Serato lite for this exact purpose and i find the workflow to be rather simple.
Prior to this i was using Traktor Pro 3 > Mixed in Key > Engine Prime which was very hit and miss for me, very frustrating.
I actually complained to the MIK developers not regarding the MIK software but their decision to close the forums [due to spamming etc] and they took the time to get back to me personally and asked me if there was anything âtechnicalâ i wanted to ask - question was simple, when were they going to embrace the Denon EP ecosystem with MIK so that we only had to use this as part of our workflows and not have to rely on Serato etc, apparently it is something that they have been discussing, so you never know, it might happen in a future release that we will have full integration with Engine Prime, which would be nice.
Exactly what I asked MIK too, but they told me it was no longer a top priority and I am very sorry to hear that. I have been doing the MIK-Serato-EP conversion for a year now and I can have preprogrammable Cue points on Prime 4. Still, it would be nice if MIK would surprise us in this.
I do use Serato Lite for the same reason. I wish MiK would be supported directly by EP and the SC players. I donât like to have the energy in the comments tho because I put my own stuff there and when I need use RegEx to find certain comments and keep the energy value in place when multi editing files⌠well itâs a pain in the ass. I usually write which cue point is safe for transitions so if I play a track which I havenât played much, itâs very helpful to me to read at what cue point I should mix the track in and what cue point should let it go out.
hey can you describe your workflow? because serator lite is for free right?
I am struggeling with turning analysis off becuase then i wont see a waveform in engine, and my sc6000 has to re-analyze it before playing which increases loading time ? right? or am i missing something
From what i have gathered and tested you can skip step 5+6 and not analyze them at all in serato
The reason for this is:
You use MIK for meta-data wihtin the id3 tags like key etc and cue points. Then put it into serator just to have an interface to EP. When first loading the library from serato into EP, EP will use id3 tags like key, bpm etc. Right now all your tracks have a ânot-analyzedâ status for EP or EPs own database respectively.
BUT when you start analyzing tracks within EP it will write waveform information, bpm, key etc in their own Database and USE THIS DATA exclusively! Hence it wont even show id3 tags within EP anymore but the ifnormation stored in the databse.
Do use id3 tag information again you can then âre-import track informationâ.
What EP cannot and wont do at all is using MIK or serato waveform, bpm!
So here is what i have done and it worked so far:
analyze tracks in MIK
Add tracks to serato, no analyzation needed (Lite or pro doesnt matter)
(dont get confused Lite only shows like 4 cue points but MIK added all it could find)
Update serato library within EP and add tracks to EP Collection
Analyze track in EP
Re-import track information
If you see flaws or have even a smarter approach, please let me know
EP in 1.5 and newer will use Serato BPM and Beatgrid data (1.6) with âanalysisâ option.
Reanalyse will ignore serato bpm
And itâs cool that EP saves its own values in itâs database and thatâs why re-import information can pull the original values from the ID tags again.
I wasnât sure what information it will pull because serato stores bpm and key in the ID tags. So to be save I suggested analysis (bpm) in Serato so you can have that information as well.
Maybe the devs can shed some light on what re-import information does.
Glad that youâve found a workaround.
PS re-import information stopped working a few versions ago. This suggests they have fixed it if itâs working for you.
From my understanding if you analyse your songs with Mixed In Key and after this use âRe-import track informationâ in Engine DJ any updated tag will be considered. There are different options where Mixed In Key can store information in the song. You must see what best fits your requirements. (only hot cues do not have direct support, need to use Serato for this)
I cracked it! I am able to import cue points straight from MIK to Engine DJ. I check if tracks analized in MIK are available in EDJ. If found, I set 8 CUE points.
I made a program, which allows this feature. Recently I lost a lot info after upgrade from 4.0 to 4.1. But found a way to restore it. And now also how Copy it straight from Mixed in key.
If you have developed such a program, it will certainly be useful for users (like me) who use MIK in combination with Using Engine OS. And we can skip the intermediate step with Serato DJ.
Hi, now i have to build it in a proper program. I just add hot cues to 10000 track, which were prior calculated in MIK. Tracks which have one or more hot cues already set, will be skipped. Otherwise a hot cue set by hand will be overwritten.
I can make an override for this, to allow an update to all.
Strange think I found, when MIK found 6 cue points, 6 hot cues will be set to edj. Setting a 7th is not allowed, by just pressing hot cue 7 on the deck. In this case no dim lights are lit for cue 7 and 8. In otherwords, no lights at all for these buttons. Pressing shift + hot cue 7 will set the 7th cue. After deletion of this hot cue, will result the button remains dim lit. If no cue is set (without use of MIK) or one by EDJ desktop, all not assigned hot cue buttons are dim lit, directly excepting a new hot cue to be set by pressing the button. So this is one difference since I imported the cue points straight from MIK. This i have to sort out where this is coming from.
