Denon Prime GO 2 (Suggestions)

Lol! I’m mainly talking about the “Play/Pause” button that I would like to see on the far left instead of the “CUE” and the “CUE” on the right instead of “Play/Pause”!

90% of controllers have the CUE above the Play/Pause button. and the Play/Pause button is at the bottom left and since there is only one button you can’t make a mistake to start a song and that even with your eyes closed!

If only you’d mentioned those 200, or was it 300 people refusing to buy because of the placement of one button, at the time. A button which others (real others, on this very thread) have said, is well placed on the current model.

Now, if a Go Mk2 came out, with buttons in any other layout than the way original Go owners were used to, they’d have to get used to an unfamiliar (to them) layout

Except that I use for personal pleasure or professional choice “depending on the theme of the event” different DJ products, I don’t stop at Prime Go, it could be SL1200Mk5 + Mix Rane MP2015 or the 62, or my old V7 and Numark NS7II, or the good old MEP7000 (which still works) combined with the DJM 5000, the CDJ 2000, Prime 4 and 4+, Rane Performer more recently.

The store reaches customers within a radius of 60/70km, then there are internet sales.

But I’m talking about customers who come to the store and test the different products present in demo and when they moved from one product to another “controller or reader” well, they were confused that the Play was not on the far left.

Namely that the majority of them told us: we are looking for a small and autonomous emergency product, others it was to carry out set preparations or others to mix in the living room, bedroom or in front of the swimming pool and not for single use as a Live DJ.

Anyway, in this forum, we always come back to the same point, we make a remark and bam we get a lot of flak! While these are things experienced and customer feedback.

Before I defended the brand and by dint of being called a fanboy it ■■■■■■ me off and since then I no longer help and I no longer communicate anything about the exclusives of the updates on the dedicated DJ sites or French forum, because if you help… you get insulted, and if you make a remark on a personal ergonomic point of view or coming from different user feedback, you also become a black beast.

It’s all evens Stevens … ultimately

For every alleged customer that supposedly wants the headphone socket on the left, another alleged customer wants it on the right

For every alleged customer who supposedly wants the platter infront of the performance pads, another aledged customer will insist that it should go behind.

lol I find that people who fuss over the headphone output on the right or left is borderline ridiculous, given that the cable is long enough. It’s not like a button that is fixed, you have to deal with it and even if you are right-handed or left-handed you won’t be able to move the button.

I really do find that very hard to believe, based on my knowledge of DJ equipment going back decades. I’ve NEVER seen a product that has the cue button on the right of the play button. The “industry standard” (for horizontal button layout) is for the cue to be on the left of the play button.

My guess is that these people have only ever seen the “CDJ layout” with the cue above the play, and are unaware of any older products which use a horizontal arrangement.

That’s just three digital controllers I had to hand. I also have a Denon twin CD unit - same button layout.

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Though I might add a few more HD type systems. I only know of one where the play was put on the left.

Gas pedal is on the right. Stopping is on the left…. DJs start and stop every track. The invention of the CUE button by Numark around 1990 made this paradigm make sense.

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HD? Horizontal Design?

Was about to paste several pics posted above indeed.

Sorry @DjMell26 but CUE has always been on the left by default.

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Imagine dual deck standalone unit now, with modern controls but in a slim, rack mount format, prime go jogs and the engine interface. Would slot into a compact DJ booth with a pair of turntables :heart_eyes:

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You guys are heavy with photos! We don’t care about previous products from over 18 years ago. I started djing in 92 and was a reseller from 2006 until 2018, I saw equipment pass by and I owned a large number of them, since I had the reseller price.

Have you looked at the behavior of the dj in the evening and who knows even you, you have the same habits, here are our habits: whether in private evening or club / festival dj (we will not talk about djs who have 80% of their time with our hands in the air lol), we all tend to put our hand on hold on the left edge of the player or controller, which allows us to be ready to send the music or to hold it and put it on on pause and after that we will tend to let our hand rest at the bottom left.

As indicated above, I explained the use that some users want to make of it either to make small preparations of sets, or to have fun mixing by the pool with family or friends, or as a backup product , or like me to perform wedding ceremonies (7/8 per year) it is therefore an occasional use and it is not the little that it is used that we will have time to familiarize ourselves with the position of the Play/Pause button, especially if you mainly use a P4. P4+, P2, ScLive, Rane One, Performer and Pioneer products…, we will have the reflex of leaving our hand at the bottom left and pressing play automatically, well with the Pgo that will not be the case we will have pressed the CUE, to avoid this we will have to either prepare our finger for play (provided we are not disturbed) or to look at the keys before pressing, the action will be less natural than if the play button was at the bottom left edge.

Hard Drive…

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Just trying to understand the issue - is the problem for you and all your customers that you accidentally press the cue button when trying to rest your hand?

I get what your saying, but those few DJ’s still need to adapt.

CUE > PLAY:

  • Vertically: top > down
  • Horizontally: left > right

It has been that way for ages. The design choice had an origin story (see @CBR 's remark) and all manufacturers followed.

Your request for change is like asking for a pitch-fader change, as minus values should normally really be below plus values wouldn’t it (like a channel fader)?! The answer is no, because the origin story is following the platter movement of turntables; that’s why we all have the plus pitch values downwards and minus pitch values upwards.

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I think if they added two phone/line inputs on the back of the unit, and got rid of one of microphone inputs, put two Aux/Gain pots either side of the Sweep FX pot, and used the same input faders and EQ chain, something similar to whats on the A&H 23c, this would open the door for new users and usability.

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I agree this is a must on all DJ gear, I should of added them in. :+1:

  • 2 USB inputs (only 1 can be tricky sometimes unless you use a SD card as well)
  • USB C for charger,

I did add better VU meters in the picture,

The microphone EQ could be added in the software to free up more room, but great ideas DDrey,

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Dec 2013

Summer 2024

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Sorry, but the position of Play/Pause does not make sense on the PGO which is a standalone player! Yes The CUE is in front of Play/Pause on some controllers especially on medium/small format products. The reason for this order is purely the fact that they all work with PC/MAC software (SDJ/Pro, TRAKTOR), since they are not standalone, normally users are supposed to have prepared their music by placing the CUE at the start of the track or HOTCUEs (personally I do not even use the CUE and I wonder if this button is still useful???, I only use HOTCUEs), so when we connect the controller to the computer, we will call the CUE so that it goes to the playhead. With a standalone product we will not necessarily have prepared our music with software, we will do this hot, we will press Play, then Pause and we will move forward or backward slightly in the song using the jogwheel to place our CUE reference point, once we have chosen its location at the beginning of the song by making a call it will position itself on the playhead. So for the time being… We will have pressed Play first, once our CUE is placed, all that remains is to press Play again to start playback. I use my PGo especially for wedding ceremonies “8x per year max”. And like a lot of wedding/birthday DJs… we tend to leave our hand close to the Play button (bottom left) to be ready to send the music and as at the same time we will have an eye on the arrival of the bride and groom and we will automatically press the first button on the far left and there “error” we will have pressed CUE instead of PLAY, so I think that like me what puts off the purchase of the PGO as a standalone player and its occasional use, the PLAY is not the right location, if we base ourselves on other standalone controllers like the RX, XDJ, Omni Duo, Prime SCLive 2/4, P2, P4, P4+, the new PGo must follow this standard as a standalone player.

I think the mistake is to follow the ergonomics of small controllers working with a computer, it is necessary to keep the logic of all-in-one products while thinking of those who do not want to use preparation software, for once AlphaTheta did not miss on this point with the Omni Duo (except for its color).

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No, it’s completely irrelevant whether the hardware is standalone or a controller.

What is relevant is the standard positioning of the buttons.

On units where the buttons are laid out horizontally, the standard (as proven in numerous pictures) is to have the cue on the left.

On units where the buttons are vertically aligned, the standard is to have the cue above the play button.

I don’t know who this “we” is that you keep mentioning, but don’t include me in that. I’m perfectly capable of adjusting my technique to whatever equipment is to hand.

Oh by the way, here’s some standalone equipment with the buttons in the standard position: