Ohhh that’s interesting.
Apple Music has been released in bulk: Sdj Pro, DJAY Pro, Denon Dj and Numark, Pioneer / Alphatheta Rekordbox, Omnis DUO and AZ and why the 3000 and Opus Quad why didn’t they do it right away ???
I’ll be interested to know what the “general performance and stability improvements” are. I decided not to use stems, as implemented, and don’t use any streaming services. So, I’m staying with 4.1.0 for now. But, I don’t want to get too far behind in updates. I’m also looking forward to new controller releases (SC6000 prodigy please).
I’m on 4.0.0 now, and it’s likely where I’ll stay on my ageing prime 2. It’s stable with enough features to keep it relevant.
I need that sooo baaadly, also the feature of deleting tracks from the drive
So far so good. It crashes less often than it used to. Stems run pretty good. No issues, overall i feel that the Ui Is more responsive.
Same here. Stable able.
According to DJWORX - “Expansion of the hardware options is coming. Expect Opus Quad and CDJ-3000 soon as they use the new chipset.”
People are asking on YouTube and the reply from Pioneer is “Sorry, we currently do not have any information on that at this time”…
Wondering if it means like a WIFI expander that also has the required DRM chip or new editions of the hardware (hence requiring current users to buy the new one).
What’s pretty fun is that Rane is part of the marketing, including with specific playlists from Rane added on Apple Music.
But at the same time Rane does not provide any hardware or even software of its own that could support that specifically other than through Serato DJ.
So does that mean Rane is working on standalone hardware ? just saying…
And also… where is Traktor ?
It’ll likely be built in but currently unused
I’ve said before, a Rane Performer with a screen and a modern processor would be a seriously tempting upgrade from my Prime 4 . . . . here’s hoping!
Pioneer can change their name a zillions times and it won’t make a bit of difference as they will always be known for having the worst product support of any manufacturer.
Their firmware releases are far and few and mostly a bug fix or two at the most and then it’s abandoned and onto the next big thing and then it’s repeat the cycle.
I think the Opus Quad just got its first streaming service release nearly after two years since its initial release in 2023. Since it’s labeled Pioneer DJ and not AlphaTheta this was to be expected.
If I owned one of these and paid $3,300 for it I would definitely be upset.. I’m sure the Opus Quad Facebook page is all over this one.
Have a good one..
Tidal & Beatport services do not ask for DRM, the plus chip is for services that require DRM. So no device without the plus chipset would get access to services that require DRM.
The thing is, they do have to be protected. If the services allow offline caching (which they do) those files have to be encrypted, otherwise people will be mass downloading and saving them to their collections - free music, yippee!
Same reason they can’t be recorded.
Even Napster when it relaunched as a legal service over 20 years ago used DRM to protect the files. Users could download files for playing offline, but they were protected.
Let me rephrase that, I think Beatport & Tidal just does a OAuth of the device (confirming the manufacturers licence) and the users account.
Looking up some info on Beatport API for 2025 and it looks like they are moving towards encryption on hardware.
I think the big difference is, beatport and tidal are relatively small players with limited libraries and a lot of more underground dance music etc. When you look at Amazon and Apple, they have huge record labels/artists back catalogues on there so will be under far more scrutiny when it comes to security. Remember Apple did a whole series of TV adverts when the Beatles finally agreed to have their music on the platform.
It’s different levels isn’t it
I wouldn’t describe the Tidal library as limited. During the period that I used it, I very rarely ran into problems finding a track. I can say the same with the service I use now, which is also a herring in the streaming ocean.
BBC just posted a pie chart of UK streaming services.
Spotify has nearly half the market share at 47.1% followed by Amazon (26.9%) then Apple at 19%. YouTube Music is only 5.2% and “others” are just 1.7%
These services might only be part of the 1.7% but that doesn’t mean their catalogues are restricted.
I’m not sure they have that 100m tracks though do they? Or the major major labels and artists?
From Google: TIDAL boasts a library of over 110 million tracks and 650,000 videos
Ah fair enough, I had no idea it was that big, I assumed it was mainly just dance, hip hop etc.