I do think eventually DenonDJ/InMusic will have a standalone dj system like the DenonDJ Prime Go/2/4/4+ standalone’s. We have seen the Rane System One come out and yes the whole “patience of waiting for stem analyzing within the unit and not through Engine Dj software” was a debate among those that purchased the unit when it became available, I waited of course not spending $2600 on a unit that would not deliver as first advertised, but when the 5.0 came out then yes I purchased it. Still disappointed in the DenonDJ Prime 4+ not being able to analyze within the unit. But I’m weighing in on DenonDJ/InMusic research and development to brainstorm test and deliver 3rd or 4th quarter of this year. And please do a pool of maybe 100 to 200 dj’s to test and give their opinion on the unit, please oh please no more of certain dj’s scratching “ah”, “fresh” we need a more down to earth hands on display and review of the unit, not knocking those content creators who review, just saying for them to open doors to those that have passion for their craft. Also as for AlpahTheta/Pioneer which I also do own ( ddj rev5, grv6, ddj flx10 ) the pricing on other units are in my opinion overpriced for what they offer, I still use my DenonDJ SC5000’S and SC5000’S (M) And they still do what is needed the fact of dual layer is a no brainer paired up with the Denon DJ x1850 or Rane 70 A-Trak mixers you can do some serious mixing with or without software. Engine DJ is a powerful software that is overlooked due to the longevity of SeratoDj Pro, Rekordbox, Virtual DJ, Algoriddim DJay Pro and Traktor. Now in my opinion if EngineDJ, DenonDJ/InMusic were to gather a group of dj’s and everyone gave their voice on the wants and needs it would be a very powerful dj software. And for those who still own and use DenonDJ gear, Do Not Sell your gear, in my opinion DenonDJ gear is the legacy gear like a Technics sl1200mk.
Thinks that confused me:
Why add an extra DA conversion to the chain for zero reason?
Why not utilize shift plus loop for beatjump?
$1700? Lmfao
It’s their way of business. Can’t have all “pro features” on budget devices because it can hurt flagship sales
“budget” 
Exactly. A S/PDIF trans-coder chip and RCA jack fed from the internal serial I²S bit-stream is like $15 tops, and much less at-scale. I can get a solo eval board for that much. Probably would have added $5-10 per unit.
It’s way overpriced already! You want to add more expense?! 
It’s the wrong end of their product range. Besides, what percentage of standalone mixers have digital inputs? Fairly low I’d imagine.
IMO the option to change key is the more bizarre omission.
Interesting question. I purchased 4x SC6000 players earlier this year in Australia because I figured they will hold their value and I may consider trading up later. Although I’m not looking to sell anytime soon as the units are great. IMHO the SC6000 players are moderately superior to CDJs with a significantly lower price point being an added bonus.
I do find discussions on market share interesting, and how PioneerDJ/AT are dominant, and why that is the case. I think most would agree that sales and marketing are often more important than product quality and innovation, and is especially true in this industry.
They’re connected, though.
I’m not privy to the marketing expenditures, but your gear has to be able to not take a dump during a high-profile night time gig at Stonehenge, and if your early testing was mostly a bunch of producers pretending to be DJs in a controlled environment workshop with one small drive per deck (containing planned playlists) who weren’t using the link or search much or bothering with doing manual mixing, then, yeah, you might have some issues when real DJs do manual mixing in real environments. When Carl Cox plugs his thumb drive in and can’t set a cue point for like 20 or 30 seconds until the track is fully analyzed, that’s an issue, and he turns to use the CDJs, instead. If Oakenfold throws his hands up in the air in frustration because one of the decks isn’t getting any data over the link, he’s certainly not going to re-up the sponsorship contract when it comes time. Two majors laughing about your gear in front of a crowd and on camera is a PR nightmare.
So, it’s clear to me that Pioneer DJ/Alpha Theta’s in-house testing has historically been much better than InMusic’s. I’ve never had any new Pioneer DJ gear with the input switch solders breaking because I flipped it too many times, or an inability to play two identical tracks at the same time in-phase all the way through, or power supplies immediately burning out upon start up on first use, or BNC light connectors electrically interfering with phono preamps, or MIDI connectors electrically interfering with DAC integration filters, or whole daughter circuit boards popping out during shipping, or the wrong button installed, or every platter having a different tension out of the box.
All the marketing in the world isn’t going to make up for deficits in quality control/assurance or cutting corners on parts cost and build durability, and you instead are left mitigating the issues painfully in public with constant firmware releases and new versions of hardware, and this then affects your product line’s perceived image through user experience and word-of-mouth. At least InMusic is doing something and often making progress, while companies like Gemini DJ just abandon whole product lines.
However, InMusic had first mover advantage in many of these areas of product innovation, then promptly pooped the bed, allowing the industry leader with a superior track record of reliability to try many of the same feature advances and retain their market advantage. Hell, 25 years later, I have to conclude that’s how they became the industry leader. The CDJ-1500X is almost a product you release to gloat that the features are still not as important as the brand and the reliability that is expected with it.
Me, I like features, customization, and the ability to interact with the devs to shape the future of DJ gear, so I put up with InMusic’s imperfections. Little by little things have improved, progress is made, and I have hope for tomorrow. I also have (usually) better functional pitch resolution and the choice of either moving platters or a jog with no bend deadzone 
Considering the OS 5.0 release this one is a big understatement.
Like, HOW do you run a beta testing project and not find audio stopping bugs that needed three (!!!) subsequent updates to fix them.
Just the fact that in-house they don’t have available all possible device’s hardware revisions and instead rely on beta testers is a big sign that it will never take over AT’s position.
Nicely said about cdj 1500x - AT is laughing
I wonder if part of the explanation lies in having to support two different hardware architectures (RK3288 & RK3588) simultaneously.
Up until version 5.0, all products were based on the Rockchip RK3288 architecture, and we had never experienced such a disastrous update.
The arrival of version 5.0 coincided with the launch of new products based on the newer RK3588 platform, such as the System One.
Even though the two platforms are supposed to be compatible, I think it will become increasingly difficult to shoehorn features designed for the RK3588 into the RK3288 platform, which is really starting to show its age and limitations.
Cdj 3000x seems to introduce light mode now as well. Seems AT now just copy EngineDj (i.e. the loop encoder) to play catch-up. It’s a shame little known market movement towards ie denon.