When is Denon coming out with a new cdj?? I would like to see a player with a 10” motorized platter an 11” screen with usb thumb drive on the front not in the back of the player. A new mixer that would rival the 900nxs2. I’m tired of seeing Pioneer release new decks and Denon not releasing anything. Come on guys it’s time to make a move. Denon SC7000Mand X2000 mixer with bigger screen for the effects and enough with the plastic buttons! Let’s get it done! We have been waiting to long for new gear! Not everyone wants to play on a controller!!!
It’s already like this.
Isn’t this mixer outdated even by Alpha Teta already?
While I’d love to see a new version of the 6000’s/x1850 - simply because I’m geeking on this stuff, and not because it’s outdated in any shape or form - Denon should focus on their own lane, and not getting stressed by AT releasing new products. The current 6000’s still hold up perfectly with the 3000X.
Agree on this after playing on the 3000X a few times this year.
So does the SC5000, it’s 9 years old and out features and preforms the CDJ-3000X.
Pioneer has been playing catch-up with the 3000s, and still their onboard software is nowhere near the level of sophistication of EngineOS. Right now the 6000s are on-par/better than the 3000/Xs from Pioneer/AT for me, I played on all of them. Hell even the 5000s are at least as good as the 3000.
I can see Denon releasing an SC7000/m with an even more capable onboard processor, making realtime/really fast stems rendering possible.
The player would then also have dedicated stem selection buttons for drums, bass, melody and vocals. If they can bring the rendering time back from 3/4 minutes to 30 seconds and improve the quality of the stems…that would be something!
An on-board locker for streaming audio files would also be great, it would make using streaming services so much easier.
Also support for HFS+ and other more advanced files systems. Fat/exFat is very outdated and a bit slow, especially when exporting from EngineDJ. Ditch the SD-card reader and give the machine at least ONE usb-c port. Make the ethernet connector more strong and give it more speed. Faster wifi…what the hell, why not?
Visually the 6000s are almost perfect, so I would not expect much change from there. Maybe take a look at the platter edge for the /m, I think maybe platters like the Rane System One has would be nice.
Lastly, the onboard effects could be better, they’re usable now but on on the level of Pioneer’s mixer effects.
That’s just some stuff on my wishlist, any other ideas?
No thanks, I’d replace one of the USB-A ports instead - otherwise your suggestions seems quite on point for what I’d think the 6000 successor would be like 
I expect the offline locker issue to be a question of mechanical royalties rather than a technical limitation though, but that’s pure speculation from my part.
Ok, ok the sd card reader can stay 
. Ditching one usb-a port for usb-c seems a good solution.
This won’t happen with the new generation of chips, which will almost certainly be the same as the one in the new Rane System One. While it is indeed capable of handling onboard background stem separation, it’s far from fast and even further from real-time.
Also support for HFS+ and other more advanced files systems. Fat/exFat is very outdated
HFS+ is older than exFAT and was discontinued in 2017 in favor of APFS, which is proprietary. Is there any filesystem other than FAT/exFAT that works cross-platform?
NTFS could maybe work. Apparantly MacOS can r/w it…
About the current processors, are these custom silicon? Or could Denon maybe use an off the shelf mobile processor?
This is the one in the recent Rane (with 4GB) and Akais (8GB/16GB). Shares a very similar ISA to the old RK3288 and hence was a reasonable choice, also in terms of power-draw.
Why “back”? It was never 30 seconds or something for a regular track. If you meant “bring down” this won’t happen, at least not that easily, as the chip - albeit pretty strong overall - can’t render Stems much faster than in realtime. Use Engine DJ desktop to render them ahead and export them together with your other data (Cues, Loops, Playlists, Beatgrids…)
ExFAT does the job perfectly fine for its intended purpose, especially on external media drives. HFS+ became basically EOL on MacOS. Neither APFS nor NTFS work cross-platform with read/write, due to licensing and other factors.
Less a technology limitation of the current decks, as these files could also be stored externally, but more a matter of licensing agreements, I strongly guess.
Not every stupid move of AlphaTheta has to be copied. The SD card reader is perfect as addition to the numerous USB-ports, one of which still can be changed to USB-C, of course. Nearly all inMusic gear thankfully feature a SD slot, which I much prefer over more clunky and sticking out USB drives. A SD card sits flush and hence can remain inside the unit permanently, too. Since my fullframe cameras and Macbook Pro also have SD slots, I can easly operate with multiple, labeled SD cards. Very happy.
The saw some good improvements through the Engine DJ 3.0 - 3.2 updates and in terms of quality, they became solid. But better never hurts, I agree. What I would like to see prior is Auto-BPM for external input sources, an area where Pioneer/AT is indeed quite ahead, even for much older gear like the RX2. Prime 4 only has Filter and Noise for the line/ph-inputs, this hopefully gets addressed for whatever comes next.
Fewer people opening new topics about “when does Denon release (…)?” 
But since we’re already on it…
- Larger 7"-8" jogwheels on the AiOs, preferably with tension adjust
- Improved buttons and especially faders (and replaceable, please)
- Reworked main EFX sections, either like on the SC Live 2/4, or maybe with paddles like on the Rane units, which would be dope
- More Mic EFX instead of just Echo
- Standalone DVS!! (use a noisemap vinyl or Phase to control decks 3/4)
- Smaller display bezel, maybe combined with a slightly larger 11" screen
- I/O is good as it is, and USB-C is pretty certain to come, like on the Rane
- Keep the footprint similar. Unlike the XZ/AZ, Prime 4 has a nice size
- All the software and CPU goodies of the Rane System One
That is the most stupid thing, a dj company can do. SD cards are way faster and more reliable than many usb drives (not counting the cheap c*ap sd cards from shops like Action).
Many djs explicitly on their riders reject cdj3000x because they can’t use their sd cards.
I already said: The SD-card can stay . Personally I know nobody who uses SD-cards for dj’ing but the more input options the better.
Then maybe an upgrade to USB 3.2 would be nice. The ports on the SC6000 are all 2.0. I mean that’s probably fast enough for streaming 2 high res audio streams to the double audio layers but still.
having said all that, I think the 6000s are still 'better" than even the 3000x, by a mile.
2 back usb ports on SC5000 and 6000 are 3.1
Denon please keep the SD card slot 
in all upcoming devices.
i doubt the new players will have a bigger screen and jogs, the sc6000s are well proportioned and tweaks to the jogs and updated internals more likely but the aesthetic design will not likely change but i am happy with my sc6000s aside from no real time stems they still receive updates several years after purchase so credit to InMusic
Ah yes I see my bad! Mea Culpa 
When the Prime stuff is behaving reliably, I agree it’s a way better user experience than the CDJ-3000, other than comparing key lock off sound quality, at least. Obviously the Ethernet drive sharing link on Prime is still inferior. Considering InMusic now owns iZotope, I suspect they’ve now got the audio processing coding chops to fix the audio of Engine OS, and maybe the Ethernet link will also improve over time.
IMO, the SC6000 overall size and platter is kind of too large, though the larger screen than the older model is nice. I think an SC7000 hybrid unit with a 7" platter and a bigger screen than the SC5000 that is both touch jog capable like the old Hanpins and has a motor that can be turned on is the way to go. The touch technology currently being used on Prime gear just is not reliable enough, and a completely separate M version on a small player separate is a dated concept. There’s no reason the older tech for touch couldn’t be used with a moving platter, and it would also allow the platter to have more texture or grooves instead of the slippery surface it currently has. Wouldn’t even need tempered glass, and could be made lighter, too. Louis Serrano worked for InMusic last I heard, and he used that touch tech on some of his designs.
They discontinued the VL-12 because it had fundamental issues, so a Prime successor to something like the Numark X2 full size turntable and player-in-one is in order. No noisy CD mechanism to worry about, just power supply and electronics RF you’d have to shield with mu metal or something to prevent cartridge interference.
Then just add an X1900 mixer with user-replaceable upfaders and optional rotary kit like the old Japanese Denons had. Other than some QA issues and parts durability on the X1800 and X1850, the faders were the main complaint on the Prime mixers, and it seems like they’ve learned a lot of lessons from those models.
completely understand why people are hungry for new technology and a next-generation SC player. But I think it’s also worth looking at what inMusic is doing across its brands right now.
They just released the RANE SYSTEM ONE, the world’s first standalone DJ system with motorized platters and Engine DJ built in. That shows they’re still actively investing in new hardware platforms and pushing innovation rather than standing still.
Looking at the current SC6000, it already offers features that many competitors still don’t have: dual-layer playback, internal drive support, onboard analysis, Wi-Fi, streaming integration, and a mature standalone ecosystem. So while I’d love to see an SC7000, I can also understand why Denon isn’t rushing a replacement when the SC6000 remains highly competitive.
Personally, I’d rather wait a little longer for a truly next-generation product with a new processor, improved stems, and meaningful hardware upgrades than get a minor refresh that adds very little.
Are you saying the SC6000 and SC6000M are still being manufactured?
Not necessarily. My point was that the SC6000 and SC6000M are still highly competitive products. In fact, I would argue they remain more advanced than the CDJ-3000 in several areas, which may be one reason Denon hasn’t felt pressured to replace them yet.