Turn off MIDI 2.0 from VirtualDJ settings ❤️

FYI anyone having MIDI issues from the recent Windows updates…

The latest early access build (9245) of VirtualDJ includes an option to disable MIDI 2.0 so can essentially be used to fix any problems you may be having with controllers - whatever software you use.

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Apparently some In-Music drivers are affected by this but nothing so far from the company to acknowledge or advise on a solution.

Also, here’s a USB fix that’s never been addressed in WIndows.

In Windows (doesn’t matter what version), go into Settings>Device Manager>expand Universal Serial Bus controllers, right-click USB Root Hub, and then select Properties. In the USB Root Hub Properties (check other USB devices as well) dialog box, select the Power Management tab. And make sure the “Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power” checkbox is UNCHECKED.

This is a common issue for USB audio devices on Windows (like since the 90’s), check these settings after every WIndows update as well since the MS team lies to turn it back on for some reason.

Things aren’t going particularly well at the moment… We’re currently experiencing several returns with Prime, SC, etc. There’s nothing we can do about it, as there’s no official or practical solution at the moment.

This is a great situation for AT right now, as they apparently aren’t affected. For me, at least, it’s fortunate to; I have an alternative to sell or relace.

In any case, I haven’t heard anything negative from my customers so far – neither the FLX10 nor the AZ, which, interestingly, is often used with a laptop in Performance Mode, are experiencing any problems with the current MIDI 2.0.

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Not what I’ve seen on various forums, they absolutely are affected.

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My RZ was affected last month. Uninstalled the KB and all was well again.

Please don’t… It wouldn’t be helpful to me.

Let’s hope a sensible and acceptable solution is found soon.

I’ve heard something about the RZ and DDJ1000 here before.

The main thing is that the FLX10 and the AZ remain unaffected, otherwise things are going to get difficult.

It sounds like Microsoft themselves are extremely concerned about it and are actively working with the DJ companies to provide a swift resolution.

People returning standalone units due to laptops not connecting do make me laugh a little however, it’s like they are completely oblivious of the functionality their device has.

You’d be surprised how many people buy them primarily for software use with standalone as a backup or the odd gig. I personally do and so do other people I know.

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I’m not against that per-se, it’s the inability to switch up and use it standalone for the short period whilst the fix is being worked on, the device literally has all the functionality there to carry on working without a laptop, so returning it to a shop just seems a complete over reaction.

If I can do a few gigs with a crappy Numark Mixtrack Pro FX and cheap Behringer sub mixer whilst my prime 2 was repaired, I’m certain these people can manage using a much better unit in standalone mode.

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That’s what happens when you fire people and use AI for vibe coding.

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It’s almost always the owners or operators who pay for the equipment and want it to work perfectly.

We very rarely sell directly to DJs… for that, there’s Thomann or Musicstore, or even Amazon.

If the owner or their resident DJ then starts complaining because they absolutely have to have Serato or something else and it’s the ONLY software they can use, the investors won’t listen for long – especially if there are also outages. Then things go downhill very quickly.

I’m constantly amazed at how little knowledge almost 95% of DJs have. ( 5% is Optimistic… )

I can understand it with the owners, although they must often have it explained to them why something should be purchased and why not.

There used to be many more tinkerers and resourceful people who could manage with workarounds.

Those days are long gone.

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That might be true for you and many others here in the forum.

If I have to cover a gig, I honestly don’t care what I’m allowed to use. I’m not a Pioneer fan, but their gear works just as well as Denon. (Leaving aside the finer points…)

I’ve been doing this for a few years now and understand what the VU meter is telling you. Then you get DJs (or at least that’s what they call themselves…) who think the more the VU-Led, the better…

Without Levelizza or something similar, nothing works anymore… otherwise, “the Dj” wrecking one tweeter after another.

Of course, at my expense because of the warranty… because these complete idiots have absolutely no clue. The owner or event organizer doesn’t care about any of that. They only pay for functionality or they’ll give me grief…

Unfortunately, that’s often how it is…

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From what i can see with the younger generation, it seems they are more interested in diving straight in with the really advanced stuff like stems/3 and 4 deck mixing etc instead of learning the basics, with ‘how do i wire up my rig’ being one of the basics.

Perhaps because the bar has lowered due to the technology its moving people away from these first important steps… every DJ at minimum should know how everything connects, how to gain stage and be adaptable to other gear BEFORE they even think about getting a gig in my humble opinion.

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Moin @STU-C and @U-w-B ,

I’m sure, you are able to solder and know that the amplifiers are to be switched on lastly. Switch off the other way round. And between these two steps, you know, how to handle the equipment :innocent:

I’m sure, here some more users, how know to handle

Brgds from HAM BeatMaster

One of my friends has been a DJ since the 90s. He still doesn’t know how PCs work at all. He can install programs and drivers but that’s it. If something doesn’t work for any reason he’s helpless.

I couldn’t go to a gig not being as prepared as I can be.

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The most important thing is that a DJ knows:

  • what to play
  • when to play

But overall, I agree with you. I think the new techniques are fantastic; I’m a huge fan of stems. Transition effects… they really make the job so much easier.

Unfortunately, some of these DJs think that’s their most important job. There are some truly creative talents out there.

But at the latest when they have to be at the mixing console “regularly”, it quickly becomes clear that it’s a pretty tough job that encroaches on their private lives!

You can bet on it…

Furthermore, there are power sequencers that ensure this exact order isn’t forgotten.

Nobody said it applies to everyone, but it does apply to the overwhelming majority.

It is what it is…

There are also many drivers who don’t know anything about the engine. That doesn’t make them bad drivers.

Moin @Homeland101 ,

your friend is not alone. Sometimes I’m helpless as a little child, when using my handy / mobile or using the car assistance system in my car.

Imo nowadays it is of the essence to have some basic knowledge in IT (or to have a friend, you can call late at night, who has this knowledge) :innocent:

Brgds BeatMaster

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