Smartlist not working like i thought it would

I tag all my songs with genres, Pop, Pop Dance, Dance Classics, House, Trance etc…

Say I want to have a Smartlist to display just the songs from 2000-2009 and I only want to include Genres Pop, Pop Dance, Dance Classics and Rock. In the Smartlist rules I have done the following:

But it’s not showing any results.

What am I doing wrong?

You have “Match all of the rules” ticked, therefore the playlist will only display tracks that match that year range and are set to all three genres at the same time.

A workaround would be to set up three separate smart playlists, each filtering based on a single genre and the date range.

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Moin @JasonSkye,

Thanks for your workaround, same problem here.

Imo the “or” / “and” criterion is working improperly.

e.g.: Key 3A or 8A and BPM between “124; 126”.

I will try to handle this in two smart lists (as recommended):

  1. First select “key” where 3A or 8A
  2. Second select on the “key list” where BPM between (124;126)

I’ll keep you posted, enjoy the day and brgds BeatMaster

Unfortunately the Smartlists are not very smart. :rofl:

Just like the Sync Manager doesn’t manage very much, or the Sampler doesn’t sample. :thinking:

There’s no real and/or option, just match one/match all.

In VirtualDJ for example, it’s possible to set “year is 2000-2009 and genre is pop or genre is rock or genre is dance classics”

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Thanks for the info

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Moin @JasonSkye , @PKtheDJ , @buges , @Reese, DENON’s staff and all to whom it may concern or are interested in

The purpose of this procedure is, to get a strong selection for matching tracks.

Question:

Is here in the forum a workaround, which describes

  • how to filter the collection (via search and / or smartlist)
  • —> getting a list (storeable as playlist / temporary file / list),
  • and how to select this temporay file / list with further criterions?
  • —> a list with perfect matching tracks

phps. repeating the procedure to get more precision?

Last night I tried this with ENGINE DJ and failed badly.

It is impossible to filter the created playlist a further time. As I tried, all tracks of my collection have been shown again. The previous selection has been discarded, and I assume that this procedure doesn’t work properly or I’m too stupid to handle this procedure.

If not already available, I think about creating a feature request (Engine DJ and Engine OS).

Any advise (especially if this issue is well known or if there is a workaround here in the formum) is highly appreciated and many thanks in advance

Brgds BeatMaster

I was curious myself and tried the Smart list option myself to see if I could condense all Rock and Pop Genre’s into a smart list that was from 2000 - 2009. If I untick the “Match all Rules” box - I will get a complete list of all songs with Either Rock or Pop - But outside of the main Rule - The one defining the Year Rule. So naturally it will desplay logically as follows…

All songs within a range = 2000-2009

OR

Genre Equal to Rock

OR

Genre Equal to Pop

This outputs a lot of a mess. And will include all songs from 2000-2009, then songs outside of this range showing Pop, then song’s showing Rock. Not what we want.

If the box is ticked it will work as

All songs within a range = 2000-2009

AND

Genre Equal to Rock

AND

Genre Equal to Pop

Which will display no results. Because it’s looking for ROCK and POP in the genre section for each song between 2000-2009.

In short. At this moment there is no easy way to create a single “Smart list” that will satisfy the condition that is wanted logically as below.

All songs within a range = 2000-2009

AND

Genre Equal to Rock OR Genre Equal to Pop

The only work around if you are really desperate at this time to get separate smart list’s for each Genre - So 2000’s Rock, then a 2000’s Pop, etc. Which might cloud up the selection screen but at least the tracks will be easier to digest when browsing.

Counter intuitively, if you REALLY want a list combining all the Genre’s you want in 1 list. you could use the Does Not Contain option in Genre, and run through a list of them with the stuff you don’t want shown….

Anyway - Hope this helps if anything.

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Moin @Stephen_Hollywood ,

you are so right:

here is a short prerview of the workflow, but unfortunately it leaves to nothing.

So I will be faster and more efficient, to choose the tracks during the gig, using my head, some technic and a little “help from my friends”

—>

fine, so let’S start the next step (tick with the right mouse tap on to “Smartlist2”:

—> so far so good:

—> criterion for the next smartlist, based on the playlist, called “smartlist2” (9 tracks selected)

—> surprise and mess without and:

BPM selected properly; KEY, absolutely mess, the list / table the select is basing on a proper selected list (pls. look above.)

—> next try and error:

—>

Same mess: 626 tracks found from a selction of 9 tracks.

If I’m not too stupid to handle the features, I think DENON’s staff is not amused :innocent:

Enjoy the day and brgds from HAM BeatMaster

Could this be achieved with a Playlist folder

00sPop Rock folder

:right_arrow: rock smart list

:right_arrow: pop smart list

Hello @Mufasa ,

thanks a lot for your proposal.

The problem is that imo it’s impossible to filter a list, which is based on a smartlist and already stored as an individual playlist to filter it a further time again.

Then a plenty of tracks are appearing (e.g. 626 of 9).

I think, the result of the first selection is not stored as a playlist, which only contains the result, but handled invisible the collection selected by the new criterion in the background, and this is shown …

And this is really strange for me.

Thanks a lot for your attention and brgds BeatMaster

I meant if you tried something like this.

I think in Engine OS devices, there is an option to show all subplaylist tracks when the PLAYLIST FOLDER is selected. I am not able to confirm that now as im not near a engine device. I dont think i have tested with just smartlists.

Hello @mufasa ,

thanks for your prompt response.

I’ll try it out later again.

In simple words and brief as possible:

The problem is, you can’t filter a finished smartlist a second time with different criterions.

Thanks again and enjoy the day

Brgs BeatMaster

My suggestion did not work.

I tested my theory

  • when the folder containing just smartlist is selected in engine OS.
  • It does not show tracks belonging to the nested playlists.

Hello @mufasa ,

thanks for your respond.

Your result is the same as I detected.

Phps DENON will take care for this issue (Engine DJ and Engine OS).

Enjoy the day and brgds from HAM BeatMaster

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