SC6000's? What's the scoop?

In short, they are fantastic.

I came from a Rekordbox DDJ-RX + Laptop setup and the best media player device I have previously used was a CDJ 900 NXS. The SC6000 beats them both hands down.

First impressions are, its BIG, especially the screen. Its my first Denon DJ product but its so easy to use as everything is where you expect it to be. The touchscreen is great, it just works as you expect, like using an iPad. Its so much fun to use, I just want to be using it all the time.

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The SC5000 already did that. :relieved:

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That’s so cool. Great you got them and are happy with them. Like alot of folk here you’ve been waiting a while for them to land. I can only imagine about the screens as I have a prime 4. To have 2 10inch screens wow thats a lot of screen Estate. Do you have the 1850 mixer as well?

True. I didn’t get the 5000s because I knew I would have gear envy as soon as the 6000s landed. No regrets now

No I didn’t go for the X1850 mixer. I chose a Mastersounds Radius rotary mixer instead. Always wanted a rotary and was looking to make my digital music sound as analogue as possible. The Radius has such a lovely sound.

I feel like I have the best of both worlds: high-tech digital Denons plus analogue Radius.

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I know, but my 5000’s are 3 years old now, so in my case it was a real upgrade. I thought about selling the 5000’s, but for testing the differences I’ll keep them next to the 6000’s PLUS they’re still great players!

Attic space is a bit of a problem…

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Don’t take this the wrong way but how was it a real upgrade? The only difference in between your 5 and 6k in terms of DJ performance is a larger screen and a HDD bay. Neither of which is going to give you anything significant that you couldn’t do before. AGAIN, don’t get me wrong, I would love to upgrade to the 6Ks too but I wouldn’t call it a “real upgrade”.

FWIW, I think they did a great job listening to everyone. Making the decks less colorful by blocking the lights and adding a larger screen was very clever. They finally, in my opinion, can shut most CDJ fans up with these decks. Pioneer must be scratching their heads now and if I were them, I would just copy Denon to keep the fan base they already have but in their case, they were charging so much for their CDJs as it was that there might not be any room for increasing the price (for added options) so they have to look at modifying their profit margins now.

@RobFrancis great mixers…do share a mix or pics when you get a chance. I’d love to have one of those mixers around. Enjoy your setup!!

Like I said, been using the 5000’s for 3 years. All the things you mention are what makes it a real upgrade for me. The jog, cue-play and the other buttons, bigger screen, overall lighting and drivebay.

I don’t particularly like upgrades that render the old obsolete, but I understand where you’re getting at. It’s comparable to a new iPhone.

Should it be called update then? I don’t think so. To me it’s not simply a 5000MK2.

I’m glad the upgrade is a choice. You don’t have to buy the 6000’s. EngineOS features will be more or less identical. But isn’t that great?

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100%. Pioneer did it to me with the DDJ-SX, they brought the mark II out with additional features such as DVS, and it was only a couple of years old. The fact that (at present) the 6K is just cosmetically better than the 5K, rather than with big add-OBS to it is great for Denon and means I’m not cross with them for bringing out the 6’s.

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I got mine yesterday! Overall very impressed with the setup. A few major gripes though:

BPM Display: Why only to .0 rather than .00? Seems like a no-brainer.

Beatgrids: I’ve heard that beat gridding has been a problem in previous iterations of Engine Prime and on the players themselves. This still doesn’t seem to be resolved.

When I use sync, half the time the the grids are off even if the BPMs are correct (I.e. I need to phase adjust in order for the two tracks to actually be in sync). While not a big deal, it’s extra work that I rarely had to do in traktor, which is a little frustrating.

I am assuming you are new to this ecosystem so just to advise, the software used in the SC5000 and the SC6000 (referred to as Engine OS here) is the same so the new SC6000 did not come with enhancements or fixes per se that are not in the SC5000 if that makes sense.

If you want to get the BPMs to 2 digits after the decimal point, best action is to search the feature requests and if there is one, vote for it by hitting the heart on the original request; if you don’t find one for your suggestion, create one.

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congrats and welcome by the way. you will love your gear if you don’t already :slight_smile:

Cheers

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It’s going to be a case of either assuming that none of the above points will change for at least a year, if ever, or not keeping them.

There’s been a few people previously and currently on the forum who have blindly purchased without trying first, have demanded “missing” features must be made available instantly, thrown a compete hissy fit when the next firmware update came out without their “essential” feature. Your “major gripes” may or may not ever Be considered an essential for everyone else.

+1 for this. I have gotten use to having a precise BPM adjustment from my RekordboxDJ setup. Is there a way to configure the SC6000 to show the extra digit?

Edit: to clarify, this is not a “major gripe”, I can still beatmatch by ear, but the extra digit was useful

I’m just looking at the manual PDF and it shows a picture with the pitch adjustment to 2dp. Are we saying it always keeps the second at 0? Also, can you adjust to 2dp but it only shows 1?

I’m just glad my Prime 2 keeps better time then my Pioneer did. That thing was always all over the place.

Perhaps the amount of 0s you get depends on which % range you have set on the pitch fader?

Pitch value is 2 decimals.

BPM value is 1 decimal. It used to be 2 in the past.

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I think, and I am not sure, but what he’s asking is if the sw automatically rounds off the second decimal point so if screen shows 124.1 that means it can’t be 124.13 or .14, etc.

with 124.1x in mind, So in other words, the software rounds x off to a 0 (zero) or the next number up. if this is true then the sw would display 124.2 for 124.16 and 124.1 for 124.13 ? With this rounding rule the second decimal point should always be 0

does this make sense and is that how it works?