Yes, but it still needs to change in the clubs/venues/festivals.
This is definitely the right way to do it. But others might not because of lacking experience. Not sure I wanted to redo playlists over and over again.
There are 3rd party conversion tools for carrying over your set to pioneer.
I do that maybe once in 2-3 months. This is not a big deal to And also this is helpful:
If Denon wants to go there - yes. But this is the chicken / egg question. What goes first. Will it be bottom up or top down. What makes venues to change? As a venue owner I might not bother on all fancy features. I would like to have gear most of the DJs can work with. As NoiseRiser said, he is able to use everything. Others may not.
Just my 2 cents.
Why canât you ask the club to have a prime setup there for the night? Or ask if you could bring your own set up? Doesnât Laidback Luke have a rider?
Of course. About chicken-egg, I can see the âthey should concentrate resources to existing issuesâ again when new devices are announced.
Maybe - if you are a DJ the club want you to play there, they probably do. But that means you are some how famous in the area already. If you are not that famous, the club may refuse to do it.
Regarding - bring your own device - definitely something to consider if there is enough space (at the time I was working in the club the booth was pretty small in several clubs). I sometimes had difficulties to find a space for my DN-2000F
Even if you have space to bring your own, it depends what equipment you got. With low end you will probably not show upâŚ
My thoughts as well.
Either launch cheaper gear or license Engine OS to other manufacturers who can enter that price bracket. stick a non competitive clause there for a few years if they want.
They will be the virtual dj or serato of stand-alone solutions.
Every now and then refresh the Denon brand players, Denon will get first dibs on OS updates.
Reloop, Mixars, Roland, Gemini, Akai, Numark, Stanton compatible prime devices.
Nearly half of those brands are already InMusic
If they didnât want you to be playing there then they would not be talking to you in the first place.
For the few times over the past years Iâve been hooking my set directly to the sound board just by simply asking to do so.
Btw. - not sure what the strategy is from an InMusic perspective. Some of the brands they own are competitors as well. That would only work if they are addressing different areas of the market without poison each other. So it could work in case they are focusing on low end, mid level and high end. Clubs installs versus battle setups etc. But as a customer moving through different of these segments, I would need to switch brands to do it. That is some sort of confusing. Especially if they are not compatible. Question would be if it makes more sense - in the long run - to have all under the same brand, with a common strategy and benefit from synergiesâŚ
Well - funny thing how I got my first gig in a club. It wasnât because I was famous or known to them before. I just was at the right time at the right place. The club had an urgency and needed to have a DJ short term. So I got my chance to show the owner my skills. Then I went there week after week getting called by the manager until I became an official resident DJ.
I know right. The portfolio is deep.
Look at this unit for example, cheap and looks like it can be upgraded to run Engine OS
Maybe a prime export compatibility mode for these
Gemini isnât InMusic, is it?
Stanton is though?
Is it only the master DACs you think you hear this on, or booth and headphone analog outs, too? Admittedly thatâs tough to fully experiment with like on the master or record since thereâs no SPDIF out for the booth or headphone outs to compare.
Do other DACs fed the X1800 SPDIF give you similar improvement as switching the mixer out for a DJM does?
The X18xx processing to me seems to be a weak link, not the ADC, DAC, or SPDIF stages. I hear the exact same maladies even with those stages interchangeably eliminated as contributing factors. In other words, if I go analog into the mixer and then SPDIF or USB out, the mixerâs sound does not noticeably improve compared to SPDIF or USB into the mixer and utilizing the master or record analog outs, but perhaps I need to run more tests.
Do you hear a change if you use a different sample rate on the X1800?
RMAA and test waveforms donât tell me anything specific as to why you might be hearing this on the X1800. Itâs all >100dB TDR and low THD & IMD comparable to other good digital mixers. Test waveforms look good, with tone knobs centered even lacking the isolator group delay mutilation of many other mixers due to the X1800âs auto bypass, and I think there was only IIR ringing when SRC is happening on the X1800.
I think I have only noticed, comparing the X1800 to other stuff, that its own audio processing seems to slightly lack nuance or expressiveness in the mids and makes the highs a bit dry or possibly laced in subtle grunge. The effect on the midrange resembles what some cheap home theater receivers do if you let them AD/DA convert a line input instead of using a direct/bypass mode AND Iâve thought I could still hear the effect when using a different DAC the X1800 feeds, which is why Iâve assumed this is a subtle issue with its own processing. InMusic said theyâve improved the sound quality of the DSP code a little on the X1800 recently and I have thought I heard a little bit of that at least over the X1800 headphone jack, but obviously that wouldnât address DAC sound quality issues specifically.
As to what youâre hearing and what I think I may sometimes be hearing (or used to) on it⌠Could be a poorly-implemented switching (pulse width modulation) power supply, but I donât hear the X1800âs specific maladies on the Prime player analog outputs that also have such a power supply and I also think I still hear it using USB inputs and SPDIFs from other players into the X1800. The latter would also seem to indicate itâs not simply a matter of the combination of Prime players and X1800 such as the known/measured ultrasonic grunge of the current player processing wrecking havoc with the master DAC stage when the X1800 is set to 96khz to not roll-off that grunge. Power amps and some opamps certainly have degraded performance when forced to reproduce ultrasonics, but again, why would I still think Iâm hearing it with sources into the X1800 that lack such ultrasonic noise?
I think weâd need someone with a big audio analyzer bench test rig to figure out whatâs happening on the X1800. I can measure the playersâ sound problems, but canât find anything wrong with the X1800. It looks like itâs supposed to look with RMAA and test waveforms, and it also has that nifty iso bypass, too. Its issues are beyond my pay grade
Yes one of their more recent inMusic company purchases. I think inmusic should bring back stantons trackball fx unit - that was fun. Dfx1 or something like that
No
At least, not yet
That would be a clever move - export from almost any other deck library into Engine Prime or Engine OS, or both. Whatever gear you own, you can keep your cues in your switch to engine