Recording Level Prime 4 +

Are you really telling me that I have spent €2,600 on a machine that when I record a session or something I have to go to a software to edit the AUDIO LEVEL? OH REALLY? I did not expect this, for me it seems disastrous! and I see that it is not something current, because I see that this problem has been going on for a long time, I have gotten rid of my Pioneer and I have this problem with a solution as simple as adding a recording gain. IT HAS DISAPPOINTED ME!

I am honestly disappointed with my new purchase. I have sold my Pioneer that I have recorded hundreds of sessions at very good volumes without problems, and spend €2,600 for a Prime 4+ and it has a lousy recording level, I have read all about the recording level in the forum and there are people who advises that I have to enter an audio editor to give more audio level to my sessions… are you serious? that a machine that is worth almost €3000 does not record the audio level well or that it has a recording gain knob? I feel depressed by this option. And the funniest thing is that Denon has had this problem since previous versions. I did not expect this from Denon, I found out and I continue with my RX2

Ensure your channel levels are up to an appropriate level (i usually go at least 2 into the white lights)

You can then download Audacity, a free program, this allows you to run your mix file through it and ‘normalise’ the volume to your required level if you wish to do.

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For me, it’s my opinion (note those three words) that the comments about someone swapping from up to date and advanced kit back to a RX2 simply because of low recording volume, is, here it is again, in my opinion, very very difficult to take as an actual fact.

Also, they said they “got rid of” their RX2, which would make “I continue with my RX2” a little bit difficult too. Lol

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This is a long standing issue on the Prime series and many of us have asked for the recording level to be raised…but Denon will not budge.

Dunno what happened to “the customer is always right” but they seem to think we’re not smart enough to set the correct level ourselves, and expect us to use computer software to correct the issue.

Funny thing is, Denon did the same thing on previous equipment, customers complained…and they actually did something about it.

[shrug]

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I’d say it is not an issue but a design choice. And personally I very much prefer it. If limiting is applied right into the recording there is no way to fix it if the levels are pushed a bit too hard. If the recorded audio is still linear (no clipping or brickwall limiting), we have the ultimate freedom to bring up the level any way we want.

But I do realize when users don’t want to spend time in post processing. So it would help if we had a choice. The limiter in the Prime 4(+) doesn’t sound great though. If limiting would be applied to the recording to bring up its level, it definitely should be a better sounding limiter. Just my 2cts :slight_smile:

With any product, if you don’t like the way it does one of its 200 features, buy a little box that does that one feature in a way that you do like.

In this case a standalone audio recorder will connect to the audio outs of the prime… giving you lots of options for file format, quality versus file size, record level, file marking/splitting, file naming etc.

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