I’m new here, I haven’t checked if it was discussed already before, however I have an idea to share.
There are lots of DJs I know, they use Serato with a Laptop, Serato mixer and only one player in HID mode to load tracks. So basically, e.g., they are loading new track to deck 2, then making the transition and after that using instant doubles feature to transfer the track to the deck 1. And lastly they switch the deck volumes by using up faders, the deck 2 is again available to load new tracks. They have already FX controls and performance pads on the mixer. I offered a few DJs to use LC6000 PRIME, rather than carrying heavy players, besides LC6000 PRIME can be used bus-powered as well. They found it logical, they were using those players as controllers anyways. This part so far for explaining the target group of idea.
Now lemme explain my idea:Denon DJ players are capable of playing two decks at the same time and there are Rane mixers with FXs, FX controls and performance pads… You can see to where I’m going, right? What if Rane mixers would be able to control Engine OS on Denon DJ players? By that way, the DJs in the target group I explained above, wouldn’t need to use a laptop at all. This advantage might make them to switch from Serato to Denon DJ and Rane. They could use FX controls and performance pads on the Rane mixer to control Engine OS on Denon DJ players. Top of it, they would have all the mixer controls externally and hardware FXs etc. All they would need to use RCA cables to connect both channels on the mixer and a USB cable for midi. Though maybe it’s also possible to transfer audio via USB, that far I don’t know. I mean if LC6000 PRIME can control Engine OS on Denon DJ players so maybe Rane mixers might be able to. Is it possible technically? I really look forward to hearing your opinions about this.
Firstly, you don’t need to include all the bold text, it just makes reading the post distracting, we can understand the requirement without that.
Which parts of the Engine player are you specifically looking to be controlled by the Rane mixer? Most of the functions embedded into the player have their own hardware button on the device, like Cues, loops, track selection etc.
I’m writing this reply in all regular text not to distract you
I meant Serato mixers, such as Seventy and actually as I mentioned above already, I was talking about performance pads and FX controls. Also loop controls as well etc. Those are already labeled on the Seventy. You say “…Most of the functions embedded into the player have their own hardware button on the device, like Cues, loops…”, my answer to that it’s only just for one deck, via Rane mixers you can use controls for both decks simultaneously, which is a big deal. I mean Denon DJ players are able to play 2 decks, however controls are for one deck simultaneously. Moreover, having extra controls for the same deck is useful, imagine keeping pads on SC6000 as hot cues for deck B and keeping performance pads on the right side of the Seventy as “roll” again for deck B. It wouldn’t hurt at all.
Those DJs I mentioned above carry a mixer and a player aaaand a laptop. By that solution, they wouldn’t need to use laptop at all. For that kind of performance DJing requires a scratch mixer with performance pads, FX pedals etc. It’s different then EDM mixing. Obviously DJs can mix different genres via different setups as well, but it’s not the point of the discussion. I hope I could explain.
It seems like quite a niche use case but what you can do is raise it as a feature request using the template. Then people can vote on it and it’ll gain traction or not depending on popularity.
Why limit it to Rane mixers? Only a small subset of Denon users would have one.
Control of EngineOS* parameters from external MIDI controllers (anything with pads, knobs etc) has been requested before, but they would need to be class compliant.
Thanks for the advice! I will defo check it out ASAP.
I think even though it would be perfect for the target audience I explained above, it would be still a great improvement for anybody who would like to use “battle style mixer” rather than “club style”. Cuz basically performance pads and some other controls on the battle style mixer wouldn’t be redundant. More controls wouldn’t hurt as I mentioned, especially considering with the new Stems improvement, Engine DJ needs more pads/controls imo.
I have been thinking exactly the same from the very beginning, I mean it would be awesome if it would work with all midi controllers. However I don’t know the protocol for the Denon DJ players. I know LC6000 can control them, but dunno if it was via MIDI or something else. Since both Rane and Denon DJ brands are under inMusic umbrella, that’s why I offered Rane for now.
As far as I got Engine DJ is the general name. Engine Desktop is for desktop and Engine OS for devices as OS, as the names offer. But yeah, I’m new. Thanks for warning. I’m fixing it.
What if Rane mixers would be able to control Engine OS on Denon DJ players? By that way, the DJs in the target group I explained above, wouldn’t need to use a laptop at all. This advantage might make them to switch from Serato to Denon DJ and Rane. They could use FX controls and performance pads on the Rane mixer to control Engine OS on Denon DJ players. Top of it, they would have all the mixer controls externally and hardware FXs etc. All they would need to use RCA cables to connect both channels on the mixer and a USB cable for midi. Though maybe it’s also possible to transfer audio via USB, that far I don’t know. I mean if LC6000 PRIME can control Engine OS on Denon DJ players so maybe Rane mixers might be able to. Is it possible technically? I really look forward to hearing your opinions about this.