Prepare list does not save changes when you restart in 2.0

[SunnyJ]

I agree it would make sense to be able to create a playlist from prepare. For me I stream a lot too and it would make even more sense as when you create playlists within the streaming sites you can’t sort by BPM etc which is a real pain.

[PKtheDJ]

@djkarlos

now in 2.0 when you turn off and on this list is empty

In my opinion this is now the correct behaviour. It’s only supposed to be a temporary storage area.

[NoiseRiser]

According to any description or manuals about that list - this is as You say - temporary storage area for tracks to be played in a CURRENT set. Not after a power cycle.

[Nikdo]

Problem with features like these, is that you could likely find a lot of people on both side of the fence:

• Those that would like it that he prepare list is there when they come back. Likely these would be the folks that are practicing with a unit

• Folks that like it when they turn the unit on, ready to do their mixing, do not have to first clear their prepare list.

For what it’s worth, I would tend to agree that this is supposed to be temporary and ought to be cleared upon power cycle. I think a much better approach to this issue, is to implement the functionality folks are asking for which is to allow creation of a playlist from prepare.

Cheers

[NoiseRiser]

@Nikdo

I think a much better approach to this issue, is to implement the functionality folks are asking for which is to allow creation of a playlist from prepare.

I would like to have this functionality as well. I think, that this is the most reasonable option.

[mufasa]

The question is why did they decide to remove the “feature”

I’m guessing OP is used to the “feature”

Its not the first time a serendipitous feature was removed.

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[djkarlos]

This is as easy as adding an option and setting whether since the pre-preparation list is cleared when the unit is turned off or not, and everyone is happy.

In my case, it is very useful to me and I find it very bad that they remove something that was already in place, when I have not seen anyone who has complained about this functionality

[djkarlos]

a button that asks if you want to delete the preparlist and it is the solution

[Nikdo]

That is actually an excellent point. Given that the feature already existed, to add it as a toggle in the settings. Love it. It’s not like the clearing of the prepare list is somehow tangled with other features…

[SlayForMoney]

@mufasa

Its not the first time a serendipitous feature was removed

You are right about that: active loops, 2-decimal BPM info,…the list really has some entries.

[Wyley1]

@Nikdo

Those that would like it that he prepare list is there when they come back. Likely these would be the folks that are practicing with a unit

That’s my reason. The prep list is the only playlist that could be made on the unit so it’s natural for people to have an itching need to be able to keep it.

I find this current iteration of the prep list foreign to me. I actually keep pen and a pad when I practice on what is supposed to be the most advanced DJ system. Looking at the history helps a bit but it doesn’t tell all.

[PKtheDJ]

@Wyley1

the only playlist that could be made on the unit

What makes you think that?

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[SunnyJ]

But I don’t think you can create playlists from streaming sites, only with tracks from a usb or SD. You can send it to prepare but again you can’t create a playlist from Prepare.

So my reason for wanting this is so that I can organise by BPM, key etc regardless of whether it’s from tidal, beatport, SoundCloud etc. right now you can’t. Unless someone proves me wrong!

[addie]

I would prefer the prepare list to be stored automatically within the corresponding library from which the track has been send to prepare. Each time a library is connected into the Prime the unit checks whether it previously had tracks in the prepare and, if so, offers the option to restore or ignore them

[Rips]

@mufasa

The question is why did they decide to remove the “feature”

From my experience as a Digital Product Owner it’s usually because:

• Feature was not reimplemented as part of a major code rewrite
• Feature was lost by accident during an unrelated code change
• Someone assumed the new behaviour is optimal and didn’t bother telling us

I would not assume all DJ Engine changes are intentional because Denon is moving fast with releases now and that is a challenging thing to get right.

There’s also a variety of issues with Engine OS not remembering the state of screens and lists so it’s possibly all related.

[mufasa]

@Rips

I would not assume all DJ Engine changes are intentional because Denon is moving fast with releases now and that is a challenging thing to get right.

Scary stuff.

Imagine waking up to realize that your master collection stored in HFS drive is no longer working.

I’m getting tired and now I’m just waiting to see where all these is headed for.

[SlayForMoney]

@Rips

From my experience as a Digital Product Owner it’s usually because:

• Feature was not reimplemented as part of a major code rewrite
• Feature was lost by accident during an unrelated code change
• Someone assumed the new behaviour is optimal and didn’t bother telling us

I would not assume all DJ Engine changes are intentional because Denon is moving fast with releases now and that is a challenging thing to get right.

There’s also a variety of issues with Engine OS not remembering the state of screens and lists so it’s possibly all related.

• Feature was not reimplemented as part of a major code rewrite - Link (“export”) mode lost in the Engine .1.5 → Engine Prime 1.0 code rewrite

• Feature was lost by accident during an unrelated code change - Active Loops

• Someone assumed the new behaviour is optimal and didn’t bother telling us - this Prepare list change

Add to the list weird non-performance bugs like that front LED light and this JSON error and you get a sense what a poop-show this software development is.

PS the Link ommision in the code rewrite might have been deliberate because of a) marketing of “no laptop need” b) lack of IP rights on player/mixer firmware that was designed under D&M Holdings (previous owner of Denon DJ brand) - most likely outsourced to a 3rd party and so not included in Denon DJ brand purchase

[Rips]

All I would add is that developing a single OS for multiple hardware platforms is not easy, doesn’t really matter who’s doing it.

Denon could show they are listening to the community by focusing on fixing bugs and improving workflow stuff for the next few releases.

I think people are mostly quite forgiving but there are limits to that.

[djkarlos]

totally agree, there are many errors and crashes with the units, denon would have to focus on correcting them and then continue making improvements, what is not normal is that each patch we have something new but the errors still exist

[Cadillac]

I would love to see the prepared folder back.