Anybody has infos about a prime 4 upgrade (like opus quad). Bigger jogwheels, better design,… ? Soon or lateeeeerrrr ?
In short: no one here knows, and should they know, they would be bound with a big NDA saying InMusic will sue their ass if they tell anyone 
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But now it is time for a real new flagship
IMHO we have the flagships, they’re getting updated regularly now with new features. The Prime series is about the long game not incremental hardware updates. I have the SC5000 since launch date and a Prime GO, there is in no way do I feel left out or inferior to the competition.
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What would you want most?
- a company who does not do new features for existing hardware, but releases new hardware with those new features, hardware which basically has the same internals, just a few newly labeled knobs?
- a company who tries to push their new feature development into existing hardware for as long as physically possible?
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Both of it The jogwheels are too small, the mixer is good but we need a Prime 4/6 with a mixer more like a sclive 4
Add a millimetre to the jog wheels or an extra control onto the panel and a whole generation of new DJs will complain that they need a team of Sherpas or mechanical lifting gear to be able to lift it.
Ok for those who will only lift their prime 6 or Prime 66 out of the box and only out onto their bedroom table weight and unwieldiness won’t matter
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Who is “we”? I think just you. Am I right? I’m happy with the size as it is.
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Compare it to the Opus Quad for use in restaurants/bars/clubs and tou will understand why we need a 8-9 inches jogwheel version
Why? My first introduction to the controller world, after having technics and CDJs, was the Vestax VCI-300. The jog wheels were about the size of a coffee cup and could still manage a half decent scratch on it.
How many people using controllers (rather than actual turntables) scratch regularly at a gig. I’m betting it’s very very few. In fact the only people who ever want to scratch with my jogs are drunk girls at parties.
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Don’t disagree, but is the only reason I can see why anyone would stress about jog wheel size.
Not a question of size but of new Denon DJ products, I wish we ´ll have more denon devices in clubs…
But why does it need a 9” jog wheel? I’m really confused as to why that is a must.
Because there’s not a lot else to moan about on the current device would be my guess.
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You say that but I’m a new customer (well a month ago) and luckily I don’t have a full time job and I have time to mess about a bit.
Since getting the Prime Go+ it’s certainly been a learning curve. I’m an experieced DJ (since 1985) and have used vinyl, CD, MiniDisc and finally laptops since 1999 and I have to say Engine is quirky to say the least.
It’s not intuitive one bit, and I have had to post multiple questions on here, read the manual like 100 times and spend ages correcting beat grid errors in the analysis. There are no easy tutorials either and it’s very much try something to see if it works. I’ve probably spent a good 20 to 30 hours figuring it all out and getting ready for one gig at the weekend using standalone.
I’ve not even gone near sync manager as it seems to be another can of worms to figure out at some stage.
If I had been a busy person and just wanted something to work out of the box, the Prime Go+ would have been returned in the first week.
It’s not a simple process getting used to Engine desktop or indeed the OS for that matter, and that is probably one of the main reasons it has no traction in real terms.
I feel I’m pretty much there now but I can see why so many people find it confusing and just give up.
My experience was entirely different to yours. I sold a DDJ-SX2 after being a Serato and CDJ user for years, bought a Prime 2 and loaded the SSD with music (using Engine) and pretty much took it straight to a gig as its first use.
I found it really easy to navigate around, and much a much the same as every other digital DJ tool I’ve used. This is on top of having a full time job and other interests.
I’m not sure what you’re finding so different to everything else that is on the market, 99.9% of the functions are labelled the same regardless of the gear.
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I get that, especially if you are used to all in one software, and then come to Engine Desktop. However, the players themselves are really intuitive and within a week you can have them mastered.
Best grid wise, what music are you playing ? I find them pretty accurate now on most forms of dance music, it tends to be live music that it misses on. For these just sort the intro with beat gridding, outro and any loop points, leave the rest.
As for sync manager, it’s easier to have one master disk with all of your tracks in and organised by folders, then just copy the disk in full over to a new disk. Saves loads of mither (I’ve learnt to do it this way after losing numerous formatted with Serato over the years).
Mainly EDM, but I raised a support ticket and finally got through to them that the detection isn’t working properly so the devs are going to look at it.
Yeah that’s what I’m doing. One master drive with my music in the same order as my PC then I can just copy the Engine Library folder over to another drive as backup.
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If it’s newer EDM (i.e. it’s quantised well in the production process) you can manually enter the BPM on the player, which also works quite well - I do that quite a lot when it comes with some stupid BPM like 78.6, when it should be 125!!