My local gearshop claims Pioneer (or Ali-Temu) will announce something new on March 25th. Any thoughts?
To be fair, if it is the Mk2 of the Cdj3000 the ball is definitely in Inmusic’s park. Not that the sc6000 are missing something, but in the eye of the public they might seem old. Thoughts?
Cant find anything on Reddit or elsewhere, which is weird as their’s usually leaks.
For Pioneer/Alphatheta to pass off the Denon SC6000 as an old product, this potential CDJ3000MK2 would have to have:
Bluetooth, Dual-Layer, Touch Fx, Sample, reading Stems without a connected computer, a bay for installing a hard drive, the ability to control the lights, more streaming platform options, and a motorized jog wheel. Even then… I wouldn’t say the SC6000 has become old, just that Pioneer/Alphatheta have caught up and it would be a copy of the SC6000 at 2600 euros, lol!
Yeah, but we still don’t have On-Device Color, On-Device Play Count or On-Device Rating, which are huge advantages for Pioneer users. The only true advantage I see having on Denon is the fact that many devices are dual-layer, so you can get a Prime 4+ with four decks, where you’d have to purchase four CDJs to get four deck standalone. Well, I guess there is also large internal storage, as you mentioned.
STEMs are a joke imo because I can’t use producer created STEMs. I can only use the Denon-specific format, which is the oddball out and doesn’t follow the norms that Traktor and producers are using.
Does the CDJ-3000 do on device rating?
Not to mention stacked waveforms between players 
I confess I am PioneerDJ user, and as that I am following their German YT channel. In the latest episode(s) they were teasing that there is something “cool” (haha) upcoming in near future, probably in March or April.
Yes, there is a function “Edit Rating”, which saves the new rating on the USB device and it would be synced back to Rekordbox once you do sync.
It’s only been added fairly recently then hasn’t it? As it wasn’t there from release on that unit.
It was added in v3.11 release dated October 2023, I never used it though, just tried it for first time 
Personally, what you’re indicating as an option isn’t the kind of thing that’s useful for me ! I know my customers and I can figure out the songs they want to hear, so ratings, colors, or a counter won’t do anything for me. I was mostly a vinyl DJ (from 1992 to 2019) and had a lot of Pioneer products used as a secondary device, even though I owned my first CDJ players around the end of 1994. So, everyone sees things differently, but the options listed don’t justify the $600/$700 difference! And yet… In the past I was the first to complain when I started using Serato Scratchlive at the end of 2004 and there was no possibility to add notes to highlight each song and I even gave a tip at the time (I was a Serato beta tester) but at that time I didn’t have as much music as now, so it was easy to add this kind of indication. In the end I realize that it’s not that useful, since musically everything has changed and even the clientele, so no evening is the same since the demand is different, one weekend a music that you have given 5 stars will also be blacklisted, so the rating will no longer mean anything. As for the stacked waveform, I think it’s a good idea and probably more useful on the double-layer.
I won’t criticize Stems because before the request and the implementation of the public beta version 3.2.1 I didn’t know. And to be honest I used it 2/3 times for 2 weddings and a birthday where guests needed specific music in instrumental version. So it does its job, it helped me out, but I had more than 25 years of it, so if it hadn’t been implemented I would have done without. Everything that Denon adds is beneficial to each person whether you use it or not and it’s free.
Stopped reading at this point.
Thanks for providing some valuable counter argument to why you disagree, or describing the value you get from the current implementation… 
Because its not a argument to counter, Stems work great. Your use case for Stems is an exception and not the general usage of the feature set in the Denon ecosystem.
Take it to the feature requests page and quit muddying up the water blaming Denon for not implementing something most of us don’t care about or will never use.
I personally feel that Stems are a great addition to my Prime 4+ and Go, They work just as good as Serato stems after loading them up and transferring over to my gear.
Is this feature you are asking possible with Serato?
This was tried a decade ago by Native Instruments and Beatport, and eventually dropped as hardly anybody used it, as well as very few artists/labels felt like giving their high-resolution stems away.
I wonder if this new tech might force their hands a bit Kris. Will we reach a point where the artists think “you know what sod it, they might as well have our music sounding good”
agree, but I dont think we’re there yet.
The biggest problem I found with those produced Traktor stems, was that the mix of those 4 channels never summed up correctly like the sound of the original track. Might have been on purpose though…
Apart from the commercial fact that producers just didn’t want to have their track parts widely available from re-use or sampling. It was a dead end and it still is a dead end.
That’s probably why streaming services, with stems support, (need to) charge more.
The cat is out of the bag: Apple Music is also available on the other side of the aisle.
