Buuuuuuuuuuut, saying this. I’m sure there has been an internal struggle on whether to release the update BEFORE the Prime 4 ships as not to overshadow any of its initial strengths over the current SC5000 firmware.
Releasing the firmware update now (when ready off course) to the flagship club setup equipement would make the prime4 even more of a good deal for bedroom or mobile gigs imo.
And if we would find room for improvement there is time before the actual release of the beast!
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Either way… WE ARE READY!!! 
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Very true, but then again it’s unlikely they’re holding it back 
I expect the new firmware with the release of Prime 4. Assuming shared development, it wouldn’t make sense to write ‘old’ firmware for the Prime 4 and soon afterwards replace it with ‘new’ firmware. So when the Prime 4 is ready, the update should be ready.
Maybe someone at NAMM can check out the Prime 4? If it still has the loop bug, it should be running the old Engine Prime.
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saw a video of the prime 4, there are a lot of features that i hope carry over, creating playlist and crates on the unit was a big one for me, looked like there is alot of new effects on the unit, but i can see those not carrying over right away. Also it featured key changing and some other goodies. Hopefully all the features carry to the rest of the prime family.
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After spending the last 24 hours wrestling with the (often times total) insanity that is Engine Prime software, I have to imagine that even if Denon DJ decided to never think about the sc5000, it still wants to develop and maintain Prime 4 customers - hence needing Engine Prime to function in a way that makes sense to a user.
I’ve been holding off since December posting and submitting issues related to the software side of EP, assuming that an update is forthcoming. I totally get, and am sympathetic to the fact that, EP is a relatively new piece of software being built from the ground up. That is awesome to me. But at some point soon, at least creating a basic USB drive should be simplified/streamlined/make sense (ie. Collection and Crate vs Playlists + USB profile AND export to USB + Job Monitor info + adding new tracks to an existing usb from the Prime Collection, etc. etc) .
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Matt I am 100% on board with this message! EP is such a HUGE contrast to the Prime system experience itself and is so frustrating it sadly distracts from that wonderful Prime experience. So much so that I have just started leaving EP out of the process and am just dropping tracks straight to my USB, which stinks because that also isn’t the optimum way to do things. But it’s still WAY better than using EP.
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Now it’s make sense why my friends who work for Inmusic tell me we would have no firmware update before the launch of prime 4 in march
I’m surprised by the dearth of new announcements from the entire DJ industry so far. Prime4 - Admirable. Traktor - predictably underwhelming. Technics - meh. Reloop - ok but not interesting for me. Pioneer hasn’t released anything truly high end for an age, a lot of units are 3 years old +/-
Hopefully Denon will at least talk about the future of the Prime ecosystem as a whole before NAMM is over. Standalone Soundswitch?
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Funny, I was just thinking this earlier. What a terribly overall depressing NAMM for all things DJ related. I was hoping for more from Denon this NAMM especially considering the many Prime sales that took place.
I have no doubt that some Prime4 features will make it to the 5000s. If it does fine …If not it’s not the apocalypse
I just want them to improve the engine prime software.
Add a few tracks to Serato and it’s a 2 hour job to refresh that in EP.
I do hope we won’t still be having this discussion at NAMM2020…but this time with P4 owners in the mix
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Yeah I assumed the Prime 4 was revealed a few days early to give them enough space to do a one-two punch of Prime 4 Hardware and then POW Prime Software and Ecosystem.
Considering how lacklustre NAMM has been for DJs (Denon has flat out “won it”) I suppose they could be waiting to quash any potential move from a competitor during 2019 Q1 with their next announcement.
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I’ve heard from someone inside “big software” update this month… nothing else about detail but Software suggests engine prime
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But January is almost finished mate no? Let’s hope for the next week
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I had heard the same but not releasing at NAMM means it’s probably not coming til Prime 4 drop. But I’d love to be wrong!
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I just cant wait to get updates on a reguarly basis, as Paul said… Looking forward for that to happen.
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My apologies I may have mislead a little - I’ve re read the message, “PS, we have new software coming soon for the players… and some new product for Denon announced this week !!!”
So not Jan for software, but certainly new software at some point for players…
They’re already great players. Doesn’t matter if they get more firmware or not imo
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There awesome, massive potential - but there are a lot of bugs at the moment that get in the way of a flowing mix - especially if you only have one deck. End issues with engine prime crashing and loosing databases of cue points etc.
They will be awesome soon !