Leveling some tracks is confusing

Hello, I got a little problem with understanding the leveling of the prime 4? (forgive my bad english!!!)

my example track is

odesza - the last goodbye

I have leveled it on p4 that the white led rarely comes up

turning the eq-mid-knob to minus, 2-3 white leds are flashing

I’d like to know what’s going on and how to deal with it?!?!

Here is a video

https://youtu.be/th-mJt5onc4

the track is looped with 8 beats after the first break.

the left meter from omnitronic db-200b is pluged to headphones cue.

the right meter is pluged to master out cinch

the master levels (p4 & db-200b) should be uninteresting because it is limited to 0db

this happends not at every track but this is where I noticed it.

It is indeed strange!

What OS Engine firmware is installed in your Prime 4 “earlier than Engine Prime 1.6.2, or higher than Engine Dj 2.0” ???

No, it’s not strange: it has always happened to me too. This is a reported defect.

v2.1.2 :slightly_smiling_face:

ok. I think I can wait… years. sorry! fun!!! :grin:

I don’t think it will ever be solved, because it is a difficult problem to replicate. There are some traces on which this defect is very visible, but other traces on which it is not obtained. If you try to turn the low frequency knob you will see the same effect on the level LEDs.

In reality there is no official report, so it will certainly not be taken into consideration, but this defect was reported by other users and also by me, but the problem is that it does not happen with all the tracks.

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I don’t have this problem on the 2 I own! “Maybe because I’m using the limiter which is set to 0db, which is odd since it just limits the output level” I’m going to turn the limiter off to see if that does the same.

i think there is a general problem with the metering

I’ve done a mix by leveling with the p4 going rarely to 1 white led

after that the same mix with the db-200b on a fixed headphone level going rarely to the first red leds

over the years I got several mixers but never the leveling was so difficult as on p4 :thinking:

I have set it to 0db too. i think it only limits the master not the channels

Yes, it limits only the master!

I think we really need to insist on this problem! Even if the products are not all impacted, because nothing proves that the products which did not have this problem, will not have it later with a future OS Engine!

Yes, the limiter is only on the master output. Furthermore, I also have the limiter set to 0dB, but this problem is seen on the channel leds not on the master output, which can also be at a lower level.

It happens to me that I set a certain visual level on the LEDs in the headphones (usually the first white LED lights up a little) when I perform the pre-listening. Then before mixing I sometimes turn the bass knob to the minimum and at that moment you see that the white LEDs start to level up. At that moment it would be instinctive to reduce the gain because visually it seems too high, but this is not true because as soon as I return the bass knob to the central position, then the LEDs return to normal.

I don’t have much faith that it will be heard. :thinking: