just read a discussion topic on here posted this month about the Lc 6000 being discontinued. I want to buy one but there are very few options out there, most all are used. Similarly i search for a sc 6000 and finding the same thing. my question is why would denon do this just when these players seem to be reaching their peak? and if they are being discontinued for how long will they be supported? And the biggest question not just to denon but to every major player in the game is wheres your voice? I feel like you leave us here on these community forums many times argueing back and forth with each other to no end when you the maker of the product should be much more transparent. And again this applys to all, pioneer, xone, reloop, rane, all of them. maybe im wrong in my way of thinking but DJ hardware is not cheap and i feel there should be more accountability on their end. im sure i will get blasted by someone for this post but thats ok im nobodys fanboy.
A discussion topic is exactly that, a discussion.
In no way is anything said in those discussions concrete facts.
Who says it’s discontinued? What other sector hands out information about their products in the way you’re wanting?
I just googled 3 places in the UK with LC6000s in stock.
The 2nd hand ones are around too, probably people who got an LC6000 thinking it was standalone due to lack of research pre-purchase. Also people who got a free LC6000 (in the deal of buy a SC6000 and get a LC6000 free) and instead wanted a proper SC6000 on each side of their mixer.
Nothing written down or displayed online anywhere to even suggest there’s any plans to discontinue the LC6000 - probably the sloppy attempts of some jealous pioneer sheep, dismayed that pioneer won’t give puoneer owners free stems in current models
Generally when a product is discontinued, or when its production is stopped, this can be explained by two possibilities:
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Either because the sales of the product have not lived up to the brand’s expectations
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Or because the product itself is about to be replaced by a new version / a new model that will replace it in the product range.
The LC6000 is, I think, a very good concept and a very good product, I even think it is very underestimated for many reasons.
However, many indicators tend to show that it probably did not meet the expected success. It was enough to see that the LC6000 was already completely sold off during Black Friday 2023. I remember thoman offering you a free LC6000 for the purchase of an SC6000 or an SC6000M at that time. A big French distributor had even sold it at -50%.
When you end up doing this kind of commercial operation, it is because sales are bad and you are trying to sell off stocks.
I think that several factors explain the poor sales of the LC6000:
- A bad price positioning
Most of the people I have been able to talk to and most of the comments I have been able to read go in the same direction. The LC6000 was sold way too expensive for what it is, namely a simple single deck midi controller. If it had been launched at a price of €399 it is probably a unit that would have been a hit. But it was launched with an indicative price of €650.
I imagine that InMusic intended to compensate for the low margin of the sc6000 by making a more comfortable margin on the LC6000. And the significant discounts and promotions on this unit during Black Friday 2023 tend to confirm that the margin on each LC6000 was at least greater than 50%.
- The dominance of all-in-one controllers and standalone units
The LC6000 targeted two customer profiles, those who already owned SC5000/6000 units and wanted a second-layer controller and DJs who mix with a computer and software.
For the first target, the LC6000 was just a convenience addition to get 4 physical decks, and SC player owners actually only represent a small niche given the high price of these units.
The second target, that of Home DJ’s is more general public, and seeing the price of a LC6000 alone, if you had to add a second one and add to that a decent mixer, you had more interest in simply buying an all-in-one controller, or even a standalone all-in-one.
Knowing that in addition an all-in-one controller, or a standalone is easier and faster to install if you are a mobile DJ.
I think that despite all these qualities the LC6000 is a product that will not have found its audience.
The paradox is that as a simple midi controller, this one is timeless, simple in design, the risk of failure is much lower than on a more complex system given that there is much less electronics and that in addition it could very well be easily adapted to be compatible with the next generation of equipment.
I think InMusic could have simply tried to lower the price to make it more attractive, but is this really the kind of unit that today’s increasingly nomadic audience is looking for? I’m not sure…
My local shop is selling them in a sale for £399 though 
…. Great price.
Nicely put, I would agree with everything you said.
Yeah what’s your shop? And I’m guessing it’s outside of the U.S?
Well I think that’s my point there’s no concrete facts. Look I’m just saying do I buy the LC 6000 or wait for a new version if there is one. I mean where do you get your information from as far as equipment that is being released soon. From the companies that are making them? Let me know or do you just wait and see what is released when it’s released.
NAMM, CES, company product release links…
Nice… thank you as well.
I think that’s the point, unless you’re a tester or industry insider, nobody does get info about new products unless they are leaked. We all just have to sit and wait to see what is coming.
Inmusic haven’t launched a ‘new’ product in a long time.
I have an LC-6000 for use with Serato and I’d buy another one in a heartbeat, it’s a small, light and versatile controller. I’d been waiting for a single deck midi controller for years.
If it does what you need… yes, buy it.
If we all waited for the next new maybe thing, we’d never buy anything at all.
The first Denon single layer controller, the SC2000 had a full price at launch of $299.
Later could be bought for 150-200 in stores.
It was smaller but had metal chassis so it had to had been pricier to make.
Just to put this into perspective when mentioning LC6000 super duper 399 as great price.
Yeah i had one of those, the only issue was it wasnt supported by Serato so you had to run a custom mapping and the jog wheel was terrible. Great bombproof little device though, a time when i was jealous of Traktor users.
