Although Alphatheta has lost the lawsuit for acquiring Serato, Serato is said to not appeal.
But there is nothing to be happy about.
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At that time, many inMusic users were worried when they heard that Serato was going to be sold to Alphatheta.
But I didn’t think so at the time.
I think
On the contrary, if Alphatheta successfully acquires Serato,
would be a great news,
This will force inMusic to work harder on software development, and perhaps create a new situation.
Unfortunately, in the past few years, all inMusic players can only see Serato, Serato, Serato…
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Pioneer is very smart.
Many years ago, after seeing NI making its own hardware, it knew it should develop its own software.
Although it commissioned Mixvibes to develop it, it eventually broke away from the control of Serato and Traktor.
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On the other hand,
inMusic is overly rely on Serato,
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The development of Engine is really lagging behind now.
Engine was developed too late, so it is normal that it is lagging behind now.
But redouble efforts.
In particular, inMusic has multiple well-known brands, and each brand can share resources.
It should be possible to create a software that is more powerful than Traktor.
Unfortunately, judging from the development of Engine Os in recent years, I think they have not integrated the resources of brands like Akai at all.
it is a pity,
I am really worried about the future of inMusic
So i understand this correctly, you’re claiming that InMusic who the vast majority of their devices run as standalone gear with its own OS, rely too much on another companies laptop software?
Does this even make sense?
As for Alphatheta/Pioneer, surely they ‘rely’ on Serato too much themselves, given how many of their own devices only work with Serato, despite them having their own software (DJM-S5, 7,9,11 and the DDJ-REV 7 as prime examples).
Sorry but this thread makes about as much sense as your other 2 threads you’ve posted, i.e. not much.
InMusic are much bigger than their DJ business. That’s just one part of it.
Engine based products make up a small amount of the DJ industry and only a portion of inMusic’s DJ output. I wouldn’t be too worried for them, they’ll be just fine.
Engine entered an already mature market. Most DJ softwares had been out for 10+ years (if not more) so to start from the ground up will take time. It took Serato around 10 years to launch Serato DJ after Scratch Live debuted. That’s when the good stuff came along.
Engine OS will get there but has this lag where the other softwares are more established. It’s a hard thing to change.
Anyway, a Canadian company called Tiny acquired Serato recently so unless they did it to sell to AT at a later date and skirt around the issues of monopolies then there’s nothing to worry about.
I do not agree that InMusic is dependent on Serato, many DJs around the world are, Serato is a solid and functional software, in my opinion, extremely well developed, what we need to emphasize and I completely agree is that InMusic has excellent equipment and deficient software, the Engine has never been stable and much less functional, version comes, version goes and the stuttering continues, version comes, version goes and we do not have an efficient search for lost songs, version comes, version goes and the language does not serve all customers around the world (lack of respect for its consumers in my opinion), but in short, despite many deficiencies, there are still the eternal defenders of the bad, what is good for me, may not be good for you, but the Engine’s deficiencies are evident, there is no denying it.
It’s pointless to worry about anything based on pure guesswork
Also, as others have already said in this thread, there’s nothing to suggest the InMusic rely on serato - with the birth of Prime, the InMusic message has very much been going full throttle toward standalone, which is, by definition, a move away from all “ DJ” software; serato included
I both agree and disagree with the author of the original post.
Since Denon DJ makes only standalone products, there’s not much to worry about with Serato since Engine is specifically designed for these products. It’s more or less the same for part of the Numark range, although the controller part is dependent on Serato.
Where this poses the most problems, in my opinion, is especially for Rane, which doesn’t make standalone products and whose products depend entirely on Serato to function. Of course, they can also be supported by other software, sometimes like Virtual DJ. But it’s often Serato that is highlighted for Rane products.
I think that from Rane’s perspective, InMusic would be well advised to develop its own performance software based on Engine.
Who knows what Serato might end up in in the future?
Yes, Gaian got me.
In my word,
I have been talking about inMusic, not Denon DJ.
Of course I know that Denon only produces standalone models, but what about Numark, Rane, etc.?
These devices have always been tied to Serato.
Engine should release a controller version soon, and integrate more good features from other brands under inMusic.
Maybe it can create a new situation
I’m pretty sure Engine desktop is basically an updated version of Torq (a inMusic product launched in 2006, 3 years before Rekordbox) with the DJ features blocked so it’s just a music prep application, for now. If you look at the roadmap for Denon DJ everything is a long game, who says that Engine doesn’t become a full DJ suite in the future? IMHO your opinion is short sighted due to what you see and probably know in the current market space.
Torq (a inMusic product launched in 2006, 3 years before Rekordbox)!
So what?
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Don’t you know what the market situation is like now?
The products developed by Pioneer are several years behind other brands, but they can still make the products very well and surpass other brands.
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Currently, Rekordbox and Serato are the two softwares with the highest market share. Most DJs who uses a controller must use these two softwares.
Even if the current Engine launches DJ mode, it is too slow.
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I didn’t say inMusic won’t develop DJ mode for Engine.
The reason I came here is that I hope inMusic can speed up its development and not just develop Engine into a music management software.
This is not good for inMusic itself
38 years as a working DJ and 30 years of pro audio sales and AV system design, plus 15 years of product technical support for a global audio manufacturer.
Nope no clue about the market at all.
I imagine it’s for the same reason I always complained, I bought a “standalone” device so I wouldn’t have to depend on a notebook anymore, the Engine needs to be good, but it never was!
…I don’t see anything different, from what I understand, the discussion is about InMusic committing to the development of its software, I don’t know other applications of other InMusic equipment and brands, so I can’t give my opinion, but the Engine (OS and DESKTOP) is very, very far from being good at least.
Sorry, I didn’t interpret it that way, but buying a standalone device that is extremely more expensive and continuing to depend on external software is kind of pointless, so I hope that an update is released as soon as possible that definitively fixes this software and brings back the confidence of many people here.
Im not disagreeing with you by the way… it definitely needs work as a desktop library app, and it definitely needs that doing regardless of any other plans for the software.