So we all know that a track can be 75 bpm and have huge energy such as a drum and bass track.
Likewise, you can have a reggae track that is laid back and shows 150 bpm.
Ignoring the “know your music comments” because we are in 2024 and not using small amounts of Vinyl any more and most of us have more music than we can remember all tracks from, most other DJ software has grouping, energy, etc so a track can be grouped like that.
Aside from adding it to title/arist which I really don’t want to do.
How does engine help us as DJ’s see the energy of a track. ?
You’re right, we are in 2024, where with a few basic searches many of the questions you’ve spammed to the site could’ve been answered, if you’d just taken the time and initiative.
I do love it when you waste everyone’s time by trying to show you’re smart and then failing.
One you clearly care, because you’ve posted a reply, I’m sure it sounded great in your head, but it just comes across as playground temper tantrum. Still if that’s how you want the world to see you, that’s your choice. Hint - when you post a question it comes up with suggestions on the right, I went through the first 5 of each as that would be the quickest result, but there wasn’t. So makes you look more than a little daft, plus google was no help.
Hate going back to basics here (again) but most DJs feel the “energy” of a track when they are playing it to a live crowd, but they can’t star rate it directly on the players at their gig.
I know I’m sounding like a stuck record and yes there is a long standing request but this really needs implemented ASAP.
There is even software like mixed in key that analyses it, it’s not 100% but it’s great for songs you know less well until you adjust it.
I’m sure for @SirReal who just plays one genre in his bedroom and it’s all “banging” you don’t need it, but for open format it’s really useful where the pool of music you’re playing is much much wider.
If you are mixing open format but also mix sets of single genres, my friendly advice would be to avoid going into the rabbit hole of trying to mark the energy of songs. I quit trying to mark energy because:
A reggae track in an open format set might be considered a low energy song (let’s say a 3 or a 5) but play that same song in a reggae set and it might be an 8 or even a 10.
A liquid DNB track in a liquid set: 10 Energy.
Same liquid track in a dancefloor set: 6 Energy
But, for people who can make it work it would be useful having more library management features. There are requests and Denon are slowly implementing more and more. So for now we’ll just have to wait.
Ah hello mr one genre. It’s good you know the 200 tracks you play, this doesn’t apply to you, well done for again posting something completely non-helpful.
Hey Reese, and for my speciality genre, that’s also true. But I’d say the vast majority of Denon users it’s open format and for that it’s requests or sometimes songs we don’t play as often. For some of us, it’s about making use of all the tools that are available.
I mean if your you’re not getting any value out of using engine desktop, no-one is forced to use it at all, you can just put your music on a usb and put it into the machine.
Nope, completely wrong again. I’d put money on me knowing and playing way more genres than you - and a quick listen tells me how energetic a track is, even if I’ve never heard it before.
Besides, as SirReal said in the first comment, energy rating requests go back to 2017 or further.
Yeah there does seem to a lot of call for it. Colour would work, which denon don’t support, I’ve seen the suggestion for rating, but already use that for what I think about the track.
Does make me wonder who denon aim engine at, pure single genre club djs, who don’t do requests and do know the 150 songs they play all the time.
One club I work at is like that, very few song changes from one month to the next.
but for weddings corporate events and parties, it’s much more think on your feet and getting information from the controller is key to that.
It takes literally seconds to have a quick listen to something in your headphones before playing it, to assess whether it’s energetic or not. Not necessary to listen to the tracks from start to finish.
Whilst you’re entitled to your opinions, I take issue with your constant assertion that the only people who know their music are people who play one genre and the same 150 tracks.
I’ve got just shy of 7000 tracks in my digital library, countless CD compilations and about 1000 or more vinyl records, and I know the vast majority of them inside out, this is before even addressing the music I don’t own, but know.
This is what DJing is, especially if you’re serious about it, and passionate about music, like actually passionate.
Also as stated, that’s what headphones are for, listen to the track, if it doesn’t fit pick another one and mix that.
