i just edit the prime 4 gen 2 picture , just my opinon i know it no possible ,but it will be nice if the brand name on the controller prime 4 and the denon dj can light up white colour when it switch on or able to change colour
But why? I don’t see a big need in that. Jog wheels provide enough light already for your tiktok cameras ![]()
Love how the Access Virus Ti2 Polar lights up … unmatched aesthetics. ![]()
The Prime 4 G2 doesn’t support the fast HFS+ file system. Why is that? If I remember correctly, Denon DJ only guarantees compatibility on the SC6000 (M).
Alphatheta, on the other hand, has several products that support it: XDJ-AN, XDJ-AZ, CDJ-1500, CDJ-3000X, etc.
Ah well. We have exFAT on the devices since 2017 which AT only have since their latest.
HFS+ is probably licensed, so only on the SC6000.
HFS+ will be deprecated in macOS Golden Gate this year, so best to move to exFAT.
Who is that guy? Did he say his product was called DACForce? ![]()
i dont know bruv
Deprecated ONLY encrypted HFS+ Unencrypted HFS+ volumes remain fully supported.
Exactly… it’s like inviting Einstein to a gala dinner but just asking him to keep the peanut bowls topped up.
Not much chat about it, but with the lighting control direct in the all in one, if you run vinyl through the inputs, does it have any impact on the lights, or are they only reactive to the waveforms?
Could be a deal breaker for new gear for me if we don’t get new standalone gear in the next year.
I love the smell of new electronic gear. ![]()
Picked up the new Prime 4 G2 and went straight down to the basement / studio / workshop, fired up the small PA and started getting familiar with all the new features.
For a STEMS junkie like me, this is paradise. The workflow is just so simple now. No laptop, no VDJ — just the Prime 4 G2.
The STEM quality is the same as before. Not the best in the world, but considering where and how this will actually be used — loud rooms, loud PAs and real-world DJ environments — absolutely fine in my opinion.
At first, and honestly still now, it takes a little time to get used to the MPC pads. They definitely feel different from what I’m used to.
One thing that immediately stood out to me though: the faders.
No initial breakaway resistance, no “slip & stick” feeling. You touch them and they simply glide exactly where you want them to go. Very, very nice!
I also got along with the jogs immediately — probably thanks to the involuntary training I got over the last few weekends on an XDJ-AZ. ![]()
As for whether I prefer the touch-sensitive jogs or the pressure-sensitive ones from AlphaTheta… honestly? At this point I would say: doesn’t really matter to me. Both work perfectly fine.
The larger jogs themselves don’t really make a positive or negative difference to my workflow.
The displays in the jogs are good and informative. The first thing I noticed missing was the loop length on the display — but that’s probably just habit, because of course it’s also shown on the main screen.
The needle display with the dithering takes a little getting used to, but for me personally that’s completely fine because, honestly, I couldn’t care less about it. ![]()
What I really like is the STEMS indication and the remaining track time. One quick glance and you have everything you need. Perfect for me!
One thing I would really like to see though: the VIEW button should be remappable.
There is already a dedicated Browse button, while I used the View button on my Prime 4+ to launch SoundSwitch.
But hey… complaining at a very high level. ![]()
On the other hand, I absolutely love the new “joystick”. The up/down function feels just right to me and fits perfectly into the workflow.
These are obviously just my first impressions after around two hours. The real test will come this weekend, when the unit has to prove itself in a proper environment.
There are two things I did miss though.
The Master Limiter that was available on the Prime 4+.
And I would also have loved to see the Feedback Killer make its way into the microphone section.
Well… I guess we’re still allowed to have a few wishes. ![]()
For me, the Prime 4 G2 is a huge step forward, following what was already a damn good RS1.
The discussions in the “neighbouring forums” are getting pretty heated as well, and sometimes you can almost read the envy between the lines. ![]()
I really hope the club equipment will receive a similarly significant update now.
Oh… and one more thing…
The LEDs in the pads… seriously, couldn’t they make them any brighter? ![]()
But hey, at least now the DJ comes with his own light show.
For me personally, the investment has already paid off. That’s something I’m pretty sure about.
Especially when it comes to STEMS, I often gave VDJ the advantage whenever the situation allowed it.
Track preparation will still stay with VDJ — that’s simply part of my workflow.
But when it comes to an actual gig? Right now, I honestly don’t need VDJ anymore to do what I want to do.
And that says quite a lot.
Well done, Denon! ![]()
No master limiter - really? Especially now there’s the 10 band EQ on the output, which people will inevitably misuse. Uh oh.
I for one have been very vocal about faders. Ever since my first mixer, certainly in the analogue (broadcast) days. Glad that these new faders are so sweet and as a standard going forward!
I think that feature came from the X18xx parts inside. And as all is software now, I wouldn’t be surprised for the future.
You mean, that it should be on the left instead of the current right side of the G2?
I did say you shouldn’t worry too much about stuff. ![]()
Yeah, I absolutely agree with you on this, especially after how much everyone praised the 10-band EQ on the RS1.
Part of what I do is setting up and gain-staging PAs, fopr example LD Systems gear. I wouldn’t call myself a sound engineer, but I do know my way around a PA, and raising beyond roughly +3 dB of boost can already start pushing things into the PA limiter, depending on the frequency and the material.
And this is exactly why I would really like to see a proper Master Limiter on the G2.
I know there is a lot of talk about Pioneer/AlphaTheta sounding “fuller”. From my experience, I’d describe it somewhat differently: more compressed / more dynamically constrained would often be closer to what I’m hearing.
And guess where that can come from… ![]()
Denon, to my ears and in my measurements, sounds more honest and precise and leaves me more of the original dynamics. But once you start pushing the output hard enough into limiting, you get result like de XDJ-AZ.
That’s also why, based on my own measurements and experience, I would never run an AlphaTheta/Pioneer unit above 0 dB on the master in a PA setup. I’m not claiming this as some universal scientific rule — it’s simply what my measurements and experience have taught me.
Give me a Denon signal with proper gain structure and a properly configured PA limiter any day.
The Master Limiter is a god Emergency Break.
So yes, maybe the Master Limiter will still be added to the G2. I certainly hope so, because I think it’s a very sensible feature.
If not, it’s not the end of the world. With a bit of luck, the PA has a limiter…
or we’ll have a lot more blown tweeters to talk about. ![]()
I actually managed to cook eight 18" drivers in one evening once. Not something I’m particularly proud of…
but damn, it was impressive. ![]()
And expensive. Very, very expensive.
There is something particularly disgusting about scraping burnt voice-coil debris out of the magnetic gap so you can fit the new recone kit. ![]()
And knowing how technically minded the average DJ is when it comes to gain structure…
Let’s just say I’d sometimes trust an amoeba with it more.
Sorry. ![]()
That’s just life. ![]()
Oh man!! I have to admit, I really didn’t see that one coming! ![]()
Awesome! I’m going to test it out tomorrow. Let’s see if it’s as good as my dbx.
I’ve actually been meaning to do that with the RS1 for days now.
And today, the G2 blew me away like no other piece of gear has in years… really, many years.
As for the faders… when I first moved them, I thought, “Oh God…” ![]()
They feel just like the ones on the old Dynacord M1 mixer — except those were significantly longer.
From my perspective, you guys did everything right.
Okay… almost. ![]()
We wouldn’t want you taking a break now, after all.
A bit late to the party. I haven’t been able to try the machine in real life yet, but bravo. This looks like a very complete and enjoyable machine to work with, and in several areas it sets a new standard.
The main oddities to me are the delayed LC6000 and OmniSource support. From the outside both seem like things that should largely already exist elsewhere in the Engine codebase, so I’m curious why they aren’t there at launch. Does that perhaps allude to some surprises still to come?
Personally, I’d rather see Engine go one step further than just adding LC6000 support: give us assignable MIDI input, somewhat like Mixxx does. Then an LC6000, another controller or some completely different MIDI device could be mapped to Engine functions. That would make Engine much easier to build a modular setup around, instead of Denon having to explicitly support every piece of hardware.
The G2 isn’t really aimed at me. For a full setup I’ve gone modular, and for everything else I have my Prime GO. But this thing looks so much fun that I’m still tempted.
Just raising an eyebrow at those impressively long fingernails in the Prime 4 G2 promo shots. ![]()
It implies that the G2 is spaciously layed out. ![]()
(Whisper mode: On)
Dare I ask… on the Prime 4 G2 … are there stacked waveforms ?
Some DJs seem to need this more than they need air.
Asking for a friend
(Whisper mode: switched off very carefully)
Jeeeze long fingernails nothing … I thought ET had come back to visit
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