Farewell to my Prime 4

@NoiseRiser exactly :smiley:

For informational purposes:

Yesterday, Atomix published a pad bank called Groove, that effectively does exactly the same thing as the GRV6 “Groove Circuit” buttons - mute the drum stem and play a sampled loop. I now have a Groove Circuit on all my pad equipped controllers.

It was actually possible to do anyway, but this just makes it a little easier.

VDJ has also had the ability to apply any/different FX to individual stems for some time i.e. roll the drums.

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Agreed, but it looks like its locked down to that device unless im mistaken?

Its more the interface along the top im referring to, its a really good feature thats been tied to that controller, which makes it a very good release imo.

Yes I also would like new hardware coming from DenonDJ… But I think that this does not make the Prime4 outdated. Prime4 is still a beast as of today, for sure it has many margins of improvement, but the differences between the P4 and the XDJ-AZ are not so considerable, in my opinion.

Give it a month or 2 and some guy will have it midi mapped on his 100$ controller.

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Hahaha yeah there is that, Diego on the Serato forum will have it locked down.

I notice he isnt releasing that midi control for the scratch live skin :slight_smile:

Getting a Prime Go and not having to wonder/worry what gear is at the club (and what state it’s in) is one of the best thing I’ve ever done for myself :slight_smile:

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Got the opus quad, got rx2 rx3… use cdj2000 cdj3000… Denon dj devices are are way better and fluid. Still love my old Prime 4 which is wonderful with OS4.0.1 despite the bugs

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Id like someone from over the pond to give us the actual truth on this, when you look online you get the impression every single ‘club’ in the US has the latest CDJ/DJM and they are all in perfect condition. And that is where a lot of this ‘club standard’ rhetoric seems to stem from.

Is this true? or is it a gross exaggeration? … Its definitely not true in the UK, at least not where i live.

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As I understand it, it can be unlocked as a subscription feature in Rekord Box, but I don’t know if it can be mapped to any controller.

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Neither it is in Germany

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I guess it also depends on the size of the club

Here in France, the big clubs probably have the latest DJM A9 rider + CDJ 3000, the medium sized clubs are usually still on a Nxs2 rider, and in the small clubs you often find either older CDJ 2000/850 or Rx3 gear

In the bars here I still see a lot of controllers + serato or rekordbox, often DDJ 800/1000/FLX 10 or Sz/Sz2

I have a friend who brings his SC6000M + x1850 in his flightcase every time he plays in bars… at least 40 kg of gear to carry.

I am the only one playing on an exotic modular setup Z2 + 2x lc6000 when I go to bars. Because the weight remains reasonable (10.76 kg is still less than a Rane performer) and I keep the feeling of the SC6000. And then as it is an atypical setup it often arouses curiosity.

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That pretty much matches what i see here in the UK (non London).

Often bars wont have gear at all, just a sound system with a pair of XLR sockets to connect to so you take your own gear, hence me owning a Prime 2.

Smaller venues who book named DJs will just rent a setup for the night then send it back.

This seems to not be the case in the US, unless people are being a bit flaky with the actual truth.

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This is exactly the case here too,

bars don’t care about having their own equipment anymore because anyway each DJ has their own habits on their own equipment and comes with their own.

Concerning the United States I imagine that this is probably the case in big cities but like everywhere I doubt that the average club lost in the depths of Texas or Vermont has the latest rider A9+CDJ 3000

It is also not rare to see Rane mixers in clubs in the United States, while we will never see them in Europe. But sometimes we can see Xone 92 or 96 in Europe.

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In fairness its usually an RCF system with a decent quality amp, so as long as you plug good gear in it sounds great.

The best nights ive been to/DJed at are always those pop up type gigs at smaller venues, rather than the stale, messy environment that clubs have become. There’s a certain magic to those casual nights that leave you wanting more.

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My best events have often been in small clubs with a capacity of between 200 and 300 people.

There is often a much more friendly atmosphere with regular customers where everyone knows each other, than in larger clubs.

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And lets be honest, often better music too, because there is no politics/music policy/people wanting pop music etc.

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All the big festivals are still Pio based. At least in my country. I think that’s also where the “misnamed” club-standard is seen. YouTube is filled with those festival images.

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Yeah thats a fair point actually Reese, have people’s views of hat a DJ booth is become skewed by the internet?

That’s exactly how it works, Pioneer X Denon, Right X Left, we talk about them, and they talk about us, they prefer Pioneer and we prefer Denon, what would become of white if everyone only liked black? The good thing about all this is that: Pioneer brings news to steal Denon’s customers and Denon brings news to steal Pioneer’s customers, that’s the game. :grinning::grinning::grinning::grinning:

my own experience (Dublin)

  • Bars - Bring ya own device (BYOD) + XLR sockets provided.

  • Night Clubs (In and outside Dublin) - Pioneer CDJ and Pioneer DJM house set up provided (no question) - you can use serato or usb sticks. They dont care, just smash!

  • Hippy Bars (the ones with the custom/designer sound system eg void) - Turntables (Techs) , Pioneer CDJs and Rotary mixers (usually all built into a console)

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