But if the music is so throw away, then if the grid doesn’t work, don’t use it?!?!? I’d say 99.5% of the tracks that are streamed are on point, so you’re making a massive mountain out of a molehill here.
Edit - and if you’re playing out, only a massive knobhead is streaming (and is potentially breaching licensing laws too), they have to be purchased and fixed offline anyway.
The algorithm had issues showing this 75% detection. I thought it was mostly solved in 3.x versions.
In above case it comes down to multiplying by 1.3333 to get the right bpm… manually. 
If I’m playing out you better believe all the tracks are gridded perfect. How about you stick to your own ways and stop trying to tell people how to play. Every lame DJ is always trying to tell others the correct way. Do you stream at all? Let’s set up a battle and let the skills talk I’ll even host it on my channel.
Or you just create a mix and upload it in the relevant thread on the forum so we can see/listen to it.
Why wait for someone else to bite to show us your skills?
Sure where do I post it?
All DJ Software hardware has it’s own issues, I am sure there is someone in the Pioneer forums saying something similar about Pioneer gear, if Denon had not provided us with the updates they have Engine/Denon would have fell so far behind. It is not uncommon these days for software to be released incomplete with further patches later, I guess this is a business decsion in attempts to attract new customers and keep existing ones by trying to stay relevant, the alternative is significant quiet periods whilst the devs are working in the background. I would imagine most denon users are overall happy with their gear myself included, could things be better yes, will there be further updates and development, most likely but if you feel you would be better off with Pioneer go for it.
Nice routine, but it leaves with me with more questions than answers when relating it to this thread.
Namely how someone so entrenched in DJ culture has gone on this massive rant about the gear and how the improvements amount to us being sold unfinished products, then demanding compensation for it.
I also can’t get my head around your lack of preparedness when it comes to finding and using new music, and the comment about it all being throw away and you’re replacing it every few weeks, this sounds like the words of a novice who can’t find a style or hasn’t learnt the art of digging the best music out (keepers)… not someone who’s taken time to practise and obtain vital skills. 
I search for new tracks by listening to snippets of them on the website I’m buying them from, then re-listening before committing to buy, I’m never loading tracks I don’t want to hear or haven’t listened to prior. perhaps this streaming is opening the doors for new ways of consuming music, but it doesn’t sound like a viable way to me.
Thank you Stu-c! I do the same, just listen to a lot of music and save the stuff I like. Maybe I’ll come back around to these tunes years later and still keep them in the playlists or others I will save then never even play I just have tons and tons of music. It comes out so fast now. It’s not like the old mtv days where you had stuff only dropping on certain days of the week. I probably have way too much music but I feel like that’s what keeps me interested. I don’t understand how some DJ’s can play the same old tunes over and over again for years and still get enjoyment out of them. Maybe we’re just spoiled with all the good tunes coming out all the time. I do love what Denon and engine have done, I guess it was more of a rip into the corporate world and how it’s run more than anything, and me seeing it from my perspective. I’ve bounced around from serato to traktor and now engine I guess I’m somewhat spoiled and expecting them all to be similar. At least we have a forum and beta testing to voice our gripes, I just hate the corporate world and if they are giving us a forum to gripe I might as well say what’s on my mind. The equipment is very good and will keep using it, just trying to light a fire 
ya know. If we don’t do it who will?
I personally don’t buy anywhere near as much music now, I’m ultra careful with what I consider paying money for. But I also have 6000 digital tracks and I’m still finding music I’ve never played in the stuff I already have, even found an album on laptop last week I bought a couple of years back and never added to my dj software, so that’s now in.
Played Rihanna - Word Love (jays extended mix) at my gig last week (different Rihanna) and it went off, heard it randomly on YouTube then remembered I had it on an Unabombers mix CD I bought 15yrs ago, I’m now thinking why the hell didn’t I go and get it back then.
I still think there’s shed loads of old music to seek out that I can pretty much avoid new tunes and still offer an original set.
One of the reasons I avoid streaming is the sheer volume of music to root through, it bores me enough trawling Traxsource for music, without adding that to the equation.
Naaaah. Those threads ‘disappear’ very quickly (or get edited/reworded by ‘you-know-who’!).
You can simply call me Voldemort without consequences over here. 
That guy has become infamous in DJ world, he is like a de facto spokesperson they never asked for.
I guess it’s one way of gaining celebrity status in the DJ world.
A battle? You a hip hop DJ now?
If you want to go mix for mix on brand new, unheard music, anytime, but then you’ll moan because I’m not playing 30 seconds of a track before mixing. Always resonated with me many decades ago about allowing a track chance to breathe and I still do…
Haha you maybe right
Are we having a dj battle or not 
I will, as long as its 2hrs long and im allowed to play music for more than 4 mins per track 
I’m down for sure, nothing like some healthy competition. You want to pick the genre?
Ehm maybe start a separate topic to be less off-topic regarding this one. 
Sheesh, most of my trance tracks are plus 6 minutes