Echo effect not (fully) honoring selected frequency?

Hi all,

I’ve seen plenty of posts here regarding the echo effect’s many issues. Not sure if this is a dupe or not; let me know if I can vote somewhere, or if you think I’m doing something wrong. I’m working on a Prime 4.

I’m trying to heavily effect the high end only and I’ve selected frequency > 1.0kHz. Feedback and wet/dry both 1/2 of the way up. As soon as I turn it on, I hear a big boost, almost a doubling, in the bass output. I don’t believe the bass is echoing.

Is this expected? I’m guessing that the frequency filter happens too late in the FX chain, but this certainly doesn’t seem like how it should work.

As an aside, I also don’t understand the wet/dry setting for this effect. For other effects, if dialed up to full “wetness”, the underlying track can no longer be heard at all – it’s all effect on the output. But that’s not the case with the echo effect. Can anyone explain this one?

Thank you!

Agreed on the filter. It is something that I’ve mentioned before but as part of a wider FX post. It has its own breakout post here now.

The filter allows bleed through and it doesn’t really seem to do much.

As for the increase in volume. It happened a few versions back and found that the limiter helps. The solution is not to slam it over quickly but add slowly. It doesn’t do it on the Prime Go as much at all.

Thanks for the response. I tried fading in the FX a bit more slowly, but I didn’t really notice a difference once the level was up. Besides which, fading it in isn’t really what I’m trying to do there from a musical perspective. It’s annoying that we need such workarounds for hardware that’s supposed to be professional grade.

I played around some more and was able to compensate a bit by dropping the bass using EQ, but this is a bit tricky. If I drop too much I lose all kick. As far as I can tell on this end, not all frequencies are increasing in volume, as has been reported in other threads; this seems to me to be just the bass. And if the bass is too low it doesn’t seem to increase. It’s a bit odd and I have no clue what the effect algorithm might be looking for here.

Anyway, I’ll remain hopeful (and won’t expect) that Denon will fix this and other FX issues soon…

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I too drop the bass out. I think there’s definitely something more they could tweak.