DENON SC6000 APFS support?

Is there going to be APFS support anytime soon?

I am looking to buy SC6000, but all my music is on APFS formatted USBS, because it works way smoother and faster… It will be really impossible to migrate all of my Rekordbox collection to another USB format.

They ‘claimed’ that they were bringing back APFS/NTFS support for external drives, but that’s been several months now. If I were you, I would hold off. They make a lot of ‘claims’, but don’t always deliver. That’s not to say they won’t ‘eventually’ get around to it, just to say, I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting.

For Engine Desktop central libraries or for drive reading on the Prime players?

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Good point. I just assumed he meant for his external library drive. If he is expecting performance usb drives to support APFS, that’s not ever going to happen. They will only ever support EXFAT & FAT32.

Hey Blackavenger,

I’m not aware of anyone from Denon DJ saying that Engine hardware would support APFS / NTFS. I’d be curious to hear where you heard this.

@Atanas_Atanasov - There is a feature request for this already which can be found here: https://community.enginedj.com/t/allow-use-of-apfs-hfs-and-ntfs-formatted-external-as-collection-drive-with-engine-dj-desktop/37048

You can add your vote to this to show your support for this feature.

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That’s not what I said. This is what I did say…

I was referencing this 6 month old statement when I made my comment…

Thanks for the ‘feature request’ link. I’m aware of it. I’ve even attributed one of my tokens toward it. I’m also painfully aware that the need for it to be a ‘feature request’ shouldn’t even exist. Taking away NTFS/APFS/HFS+ support from external Library drives was absolutely ridiculous! Ended up costing me several thousand dollars! But it’s all good. Lesson learned.

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@blackavenger Thanks for taking the time to explain.

The decision at the time to not support these drive formats was to save users from putting tracks on an unsupported drive and then later not being able to use the drive when plugging it into an Engine OS player.

This had the side effect of locking people out of any collections they may have had on external drives. The snag here is that Engine DJ does not currently differentiate between what is a drive that just holds music and a drive which will be used in players.

Let me see where we are with this issue and I’ll update on this thread.

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I’d love to know how Y’all came to the conclusion that this was an issue that people were complaining about/experiencing. CDJs only support FAT32 and EXFat (w’ the 3000s), yet support NTFS/APFS/HFS(+) on Rekordbox. Pioneer users don’t seem to have any issues distinguishing between which file system to use for their ‘performance USB drives’ and their ‘library USB drives’.

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CDJs support APFS for performance USB drives… No problem playing with APFS usb even on CDJ2000mk1 (without nexus) - by my experience it has the best performance with this format - insta loading next tracks…

My post was mainly about Denon SC6000 player, not the about the Prime Engine Software to prepare your collection…

Because I have a lot of prepared rekordbox usb drives that are APFS because it runs much faster ( when exporting and when loading on the cdj ), but those tracks are not anymore on my computer and it will be enormous amount of work to collect them from my external hard drives and make prepare new playlists…

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Wow, been using CDJs for qell over a decade and was completely unaware of that. Learn something new everyday :wink:

These ‘unsuppported’ formats should be supported as read-only on the players. We know the players work as read-only both for streaming without a drive and with SD cards that are set to read-only. If Gemini can do it, so can InMusic.

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Side-effect …. No fam…This is catastrophic and it happened overnight…no warning or did I miss that in the release notes?

Man hours lost trying to figure out why a perfectly working collection is no longer working, expensive workarounds.

For 15 years I have carried my entire collection in external drives formatted natively for the OS. As a mac user it was HFS and now APFS.

Luckily my external storage is proper Thunderbolt 2, my external is still APFS and still works with Engine DJ. Guess I should hope and pray the thunderbolt enclosure or the drive within it never dies…

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Luckily it happened with version 3 and I can now use my APFS performance drives with my SC6000 :slight_smile:

@Atanas_Atanasov

We’ve supported HFS+ for SC6000/Ms since 2.4. APFS is still not supported . Is it possible that you are using HFS+ instead?

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oh my bad… yeah I think I am using HFS+ and it works like a charm… Looks like this thread I was asking for HFS+ support, not APFS but didn’t know it. Thanks