Denon DJ Prime 4+ connected via an ethernet cable to a router
Apple MacBook connected via an ethernet cable to the same router
Control One connected via USB to the MacBook
SoundSwitch software running on the MacBook
In this setup, is the SoundSwitch software supposed to pick up data (bpm, fader positions, etc.) from the Denon DJ Prime? (via StageLinQ I guess)
Asking because in some of the documentation, it is stated that a direct ethernet cable connection between the Denon device and the laptop is required, e.g. no router in between. (This would obviously mean a serious limitation, since the two devices won’t be able to use the Internet connection, etc.)
In my trials, NowPlaying did pick up Denon DJ Prime data, but SoundSwitch never did.
It would be ideal, if anyone could explain whether the setup described above is supposed to work.
All my internet access at home is wireless (and I don’t use streaming for my sets)
Usually I work with EngineLighting during performance, that means P4 ↔ USB ↔ C1
If you want to connect your P4 with SoundSwitch ‘Desktop’ then the StageLinQ protocol comes into play, that is correct (and this is how it was originally intended, see MCX8000 era). I have tried this 2-3 times and used a generic USB ↔ LAN adapter from Amazon, which works fine. But I really only used it for that, so can’t help in your case.
Exactly. I don’t want to use Engine Lighting on the Prime 4+. I do want to use the software running on the MacBook. However, it seems as if SoundSwitch does not pick up the StageLinQ data. (Now Playing 2 on the exact same MacBook perfectly does.)
@r2squared so the issue is that you are unable to establish a connection between your hardware and SoundSwitch. When you say you have the hardware connected to your router, is this a router or an Ethernet switch?
Either way, the connection to each should work fine unless your router has a potential network setting that could be preventing the connection between the two. It’s difficult to provide an easy answer to this due to the complexity of individual users’ networks.
so i don’t have a P4, but when my x1850 broke down and i could not use the standalone SS, I used 3 denon players with an rane mp2015 mixer which has midi faders.
I than connected all 3 sc6000 via a switch, run 1 cable into another switch were my internet is also connected. From there I got another cable into my Mac running SS and Resolume parallel.
From my Mac i had a dongle were I connected the SS Control one.
I also turned of the WiFi before I connected everything.
I also had to connect the mixer via usb to get the fader signal, had a external SSD connected to my Mac for the Video Material.
While this was just a work around until I fixed my x1850 and got back to the standalone mode, it Worked for me fine.
But still I don’t get why anyone would really use the Mac, other than having the quick ability to change SS settings. Since I work with SS before the standalone ability, there was never a bigger advantage running it from the players itself. The Mac connection can have several problems, while the standalone version just works.
After some research and trial & error, I finally got everything working. I’ll document my results here for others, who might run into the same situation. I’d also love the SoundSwitch and Denon folks to work on more precise documentation around these issues.
Setup: DenonDJ Prime 4+, MacBook running SoundSwitch software, SoundSwitch Control One midi controller connected via USB to the MacBook, DenonDJ Prime 4+ and MacBook connected to the same Wi-Fi (no ethernet connections, no USB connections from the DenonDJ desk)
Set SoundSwitch to use Ableton Link as the link protocol, not Engine DJ. This was the first area of confusion, I thought setting SoundSwitch to “Engine DJ” would connect to my DenonDJ Prime 4+ via SoundLinQ. It does not. This setting is not meant to link to devices running Engine OS. Instead, it’s meant to link to the Engine DJ software running on computers.
With Ableton Link enabled, also enable Ableton Link on the Denon DJ Prime 4+ via Control Center > Services.
Now to the most important aspect: DenonDJ Prime 4+ does not automatically update the tempo via Ableton Link unless you’ve got SYNC active for each player, you’d like to define as an Ableton Link Master. If you do not have SYNC active, EngineDJ OS will send out the tempo of the very initial song you’re playing via Ableton Link, but won’t subsequently update the tempo. Short story: You need to have SYNC enabled.
If you’re unsure whether Ableton Link is available in your network, I found the ~ 4 EUR iOS App Vetro which visualizes Ableton Link data and can be used for basic troubleshooting.
I hope this might help people down the line. Thanks to everyone who contributed.