Hey, am I just missing it, or there is no auto-gain feature like on traktor controllers? Thanks!!!
This is not a midi controller, but a stand alone device, so no.
That sounds interresting. Do you have any experience with it? Do I loose any quality of the files? If i run it trough my current librabry, will it corruprt my hot cues etc…? Thanks!
What value do you set it to, to get a nice loud mp3 that doesn’t clip?
What’s up @kradcliffe (aka: The man with the incredibly beautiful backyard!),
I haven’t yet tried mp3gain (and I will), but in theory it looks like a great software. It would be great for Denon DJ to somehow include a feature like this in Engine DJ OS as it would greatly increase the user experience when playing standalone.
Thanks for sharing
I was just about to ask the same question :)))
I tried analysing my tracks collection (very recent releases from beatport) and most of them are around 100 and already shown as clipping Does that mean i will actualy lower the volume of most of my tracks?
I have used MP3Gain for many years, I set the default level to 89dB setting, and it works well. For some reason, most modern recordings are already clipped, including CD’s from the likes of CD Pool and Mastermix !! Over the years I have used the program to level all of my 100,000 tracks, except a few specific reference tracks (Soundcheck) Unlike most level setting apps, MP3Gain, actually scans the whole track, before setting any value changes, these changes are also fully reversable, and does NOT affect the music quality in any way.
Hi i use platinum note 4 is bester for me. the cost is high but it is very usefull. i use it aslo when i record my work with prime2 (the record volume is very low) to increase volume and dynamic
Maybe I’m reading the discussion wrong.
A dB padding is only helpful when you (re-)encode mp3’s, because of it’s weird encoding method creating abnormal peaks. A “normal” audio file, like WAV or FLAC, doesn’t have that problem and levels stay the way they were intended when saved/encoded.
If the source MP3 file is already clipping, lowering the track by several dB’s doesn’t really help, does it? The waveform is probably already distorted (flat/squared) when it was encoded in the first place.
Buying or downloading a clipping MP3, will forever stay a clipping track. The only way to solve clipping, is to get the unencoded source file, lower that by several dB’s and (if you want) encode that to MP3.
I believe the discussion began with solutions to ‘normalize’ your tracks, meaning to limit the use of the TRIM knob to increase/decrease track volume. There’s some side discussion now on settings for the software that’s currently available.
Not strictly true @Reese . Yes j agree you cant “repair” clips when the data has gone its gone. What you can do is what platinum notes does and round those clipped peaks off putting a lot less stress on the speakers. But it does also normalise the track and give slight pitch corrections in cents. You can certainly hear and feel the difference
Agreed, but that’s restoring a track the best it can without other sources. Not simply “lowering a volume solves it all” method spoken of here.
@Reese agreed yes.sorry maybe i misunderstood OPs goal
Isn’t it easier to just learn how to use trim? once an auto EQ algorithm has been created we really will be just left with choosing tracks and not having to do anything else… I don’t get this obsession with taking away every single piece of skill that makes a DJ competent.
Not even the same ballpark but carry on.
DJing is a skill, and requires learning skills, within the next couple of years, ALL elements of what made DJing a skill will be replaced by computers and algorithms. The physical DJ will just wire up the gear then walk off and let it do its thing, and you people seem to be happy about it.
Why cant this guy just learn to turn a volume knob to normalise his track, there are countless aides on the mixer that allow people to do this accurately, it literally doesnt need a computer to do it for you.
Think about this way.
-auto gain, no input required -auto eq, no input required -sync, no input required -auto playlist creation, no input required.
We are close to this being the norm, and its doing nothing but dilute the whole pastime.
Its got nothing to do with ‘still using vinyl’ (which I do anyway on occasion, and DVS 90% of the other time)… its to do with removing every single last piece of learned skill that was ever required to be a DJ.
Just learn to use the trim, thats why mixers have it.
Im the same only 1999 started… and I truly believe that putting in all the hard work and learning your craft is the only surefire way of making sure you are the absolute best at what you want to be.
Teaching your ears to hear when the volume is normalised, learning your tracks etc, being able to make adjustments on the fly when you can hear it coming in hot or cold… no computer on earth is going to be able to do that accurately. Not all tracks should be played at ‘normalised’ volume because they may contain certain elements that need to be adjusted regardless, the ‘auto’ setting isn’t going to account for that.
Technology is fantastic for some things (looping, hot cues, loop roll, sampling, FX, having your tracks all on a USB, jog wheels etc) but for some other things nothing will ever beat the ability to be able to do it manually, and the time taken to practise that element.
Not a single one of my tracks has ever been ‘normalised’, nor have I ever used auto gain in 13 years of having Serato… yet all my mixes are smooth and mixed at the correct volume, because I keep an eye on my VU meters and master out when im DJing, I do it subconsciously now.
Its good for me as i work a lot if venues with strict limiters in… over limit and BANG electric cuts for upto two minutes. So knowing that all tracks will be sane volume just takes that possibility away from a very low db track to a very high db track. Its not for everybody jyst works nicely for me allowing me to concentrate more on wgat im doing rsthet than keep watching the limiters.
But you still have the ability to amend that if it hasn’t read it right, which is my whole point.
I don’t know what the situation is at the venues I play at re: the house system, but my first job is to walk around and check the sound levels on the first track, then periodically through the night turn the monitors off and listen to the output… then as soon as I cue a track im making sure those VU meters are at the same level, then ill do a quick headphone check if needed too.