I have Apple Music associated on my RS1 and I left it running overnight on 100% pitch to accelerate the continuous play. Woke up this morning and was excited to see that all my songs in my playlists had populated BPM and key information. However when I turned my RS1 of and back on, the BPM and key information no longer shows. I thought that when you go through the process that I did that the song information is crowdsourced so that this information is retained in the cloud and that the BPM/Key information for these songs will populate on the player so the user has this key information when accessing their Apple Music playlists. I read a thread from 2 years ago where a user mentioned Apple Music being crowdsourced, which gave me the idea to go through this process. Was this information incorrect? Thanks
I thought if you had a drive plugged in or an internal SSD it would store the metadata there automatically.
I’ve not heard any more about the other function since it was announced.
Since that cloud data thing was introduced I’m not aware of any improvements being made to it (as the BPM range limitation was an issue IMO). Maybe they just dropped it without saying anything, like they did with the offline storage promise.
If they dropped it that’s a bummer, because I’m using a 2tb internal drive so storing metadata isn’t the problem. I’m surprised that this hasn’t been mentioned since that rolled out Apple Music streaming on Denon/Rane devices.
If you’re using a 2tb internal drive, why was the metadata not saved and why would you need the online service?
Why metadata isn’t being saved is a question I have so no clue there. Also I use Apple Music for special request songs that I don’t own, and I compile songs in my Apple Music Favorites playlist when listening to music. The fact is that metadata from crowdsourcing is either broke, never worked or this feature was discontinued.
Also I’m not sure if this a bug but in Engine DJ 95% of my Apple Music Playlists do not populate no matter how many times I refresh it, although my Engine DJ account is linked to Apple Music. All of the Apple Music features such BPM/Key information and my Apple Playlists auto populating work flawlessly if I connect my RS1 to Serato DJ, but I prefer to use my controller in standalone mode.
We could test it I suppose. If user A selects a service, a playlist and a BPM range, analyses the tracks then passes the service/playlist/range info to user B, B could set the range and go to the playlist on the service and see whether the data is shown.
Probably best to raise a support ticket and ask.
Thanks PKtheDJ. If the data doesn’t populate I can workaround it. It was just that I was expecting it to work after reading a post on this forum that it worked for a user, however that post was right when Denon released an update announcing Apple Music integration. Other than that, I can’t find any literature or information that such a feature exists. Oh well.
But the point is if you have a 2tb internal drive it should save there automatically with no need for an online service.
Rookie mistake most likely:
Surely the internal drive should be selected as source by default.
Okay I tried it again but this time I created a smaller playlist in Apple Music, and confirmed that the playlist populated on the RS1. As expected when I select Apple Music as my source on the RS1 there’s no metadata associated with each song in the small playlist.
Last night I performed the same routine and allowed the controller to auto play through each song, and when I woke up to check the status each song had BPM/Key data associated with them. Now the big test is will this data be retained after a reboot of the controller and logging back into Apple Music. This time the data associated with the “test” playlist was retained and I performed several reboots and low and behold it works. This gives me confidence to proceed again with repeating this process on the remainder of my Apple Music collection. Thanks for everyone’s assistance in this matter. I’ll report back if it doesn’t work with the larger batch. Thanks
My brother in christ, you put a lot of text there but did not say the most important thing: did you first select your internal drive as source before switching to apple streaming?
No, there’s nothing extra I had to do other than let the songs auto play and collect the meta data. Now when I connect my RS1 up to my Mac for playlist updates I can now see all my Apple Music songs in Engine DJ, although they’re grayed out.