I’m sure that some of the unofficial and (cough) independent groups are moderated or admined by free-gear lovers who would happily apply bias and the “Hammer of Delete” in exchange for some free headphones or a discounted/free deck. Remember pioneer practically used free gear as a currency for decades
Hear you on the AUDI.
Not mincing words are you. I like your take on fanboys who think they are smarter, more knowledgeable and affluent.
It’s just poor form isn’t it… everyone is a successful millionaire behind their keyboard.
ironically the OP of this thread pretty much rubbishes the whole ‘who can afford stuff’ nonsense when comparing Denon and Pioneer, with his studio/DJ room setup, the difference is he isn’t on the internet preaching to people about it.
I bought an RX3 a few months ago before I got the Prime 4+. I couldn’t stand it, I love how it looked but I just couldn’t stand how slow the processor was, I couldn’t play things on the fly and j had to prepare my sets because the system is not meant to handle playlists of over 1000 tracks or something. I didn’t like it. Im glad I went Denon.
my comparison! I own both Denon Prime 4 and after two years I had to replace the play cue buttons! last year I bought an rx3 in August not even a year old and it already has a faulty cue button! what are we talking about? now I got a prime 4 plus!! Whoever says that Pioneer is more robust doesn’t know what they’re talking about! I remain of the opinion that it’s just a question of fashion!!
The greatest common denominator here is that you hit the CUE button too much
Now I have to agree with hardware quality. Even a Denon 2100F in heavy rental or club use needed new cue/play buttons from time to time, as did a CDJ1000.
Software is another thing. A piece of digital hardware is only as good as its software. And OK, Engine is starting to mature, but when you fail to implement for example “platter hold + CUE sets a new cue point even in play mode” from day one, you are admitting that your software was an afterthought. Its a pitfall many manufacturers fall into these days, since updating is so easy with USB connectivity. But its something I never saw on Pioneers software. Well, that may have been before the release of CDJ2000s, where searching through a 30.000 track library was too slow to even find a track before the previous one was over (like 15 seconds wait time between characters). Havent done this on 3000’s because that steered me right away from Pioneer
Besides, clubbing is dead anyway, so what does “club standard” even mean in 2025? Most of us are not going to be playing Tomorrowland. I see and follow DJs on YouTube who use even less known brands and that doesn’t stop them from accruing a sizeable following.
you still have the AV rental companies who have no interest in stocking 4 different brands of DJ players… They just provide Pioneer as standard on events. But “rental companies stock standard” is a less sexy term than “club standard”