Next Engine OS catch up

Then is as simple as to ask the venue administrators to keep the official denon firmware. But opening the source code to the general public means, imho, no more than advantages.

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Open-Source Firmware code for a player is ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  - may be ok for other stuff not related to live use/abuse. Does anyone really think it would be cool? Think about the company reputation as several units crash/became bricked/etc due to bad firmwares, warranty issues, incompatible firmware/prep software problems, the list goes on and on. Sorry for the harsh words but anyone ā€˜experiencedā€™ proposing this looks to me like a total newbie.

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Open source = continuous beta

Having people wonder what kind of firmware is installed on deck is the biggest turn off.

The prime decks already have more than enough to meet most djs needs. It just needs to refine what it already has to catch up so to speak.

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Strange, since I got my 4 SC5000ā€™s (2017 & 2018), I never had any issues with them. Same goes for my X1800 mixer, got only once a small problem in 2018, but it was fixed and returned in 7 working days. What Denon is doing with their updates is good and works perfectly on the professional stage. Open source approach is just a disaster waiting to happen. They could do an open source side project (maybe a controller like device Prime 3??), so people can tinker with it, but not with flagship devices!

I said it someday on another topic, but I think it will be great if Engine OS would become something like Android, licenced to brands. This way other brands could introduce Engine OS under licence.

Your collection will work across different brands (i.e. Denon, Numark), You can step up your game with your needs (all the way from low entry plastic hardware up to the best hardware/os optimized combination from Denon). OS functionality / gui could also differ a bit by price range and brand (i.e. Samsung offers a different experience than Google Pixel or Sony, but eventually itā€™s all Android).

Furhermore I noticed a lot of personal attacks in this threadā€¦ keep constructive :pray::slightly_smiling_face:

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and thatā€™s even more than what i asked for here.

looks like you have to read that part of my post again:

so open source is only one of the possible options. further you might have to catch up on what open platform means Open platform - Wikipedia

Open source is not appropriate for professional gear. What more can open source do for the prime series that the developers canā€™t do?

Most open source projects that make a lot of promises eventually get abandoned.

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Yeah. If one dj wants to load crapware into his or her own home glued players and suffer a phenomenal fatal error - go ahead.

If that dj leaves crapware in some public players which have other DJs reputations riding on them and those players suffer a phenomenal fatal error - no.

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Iā€™m gonna beat the dead horse on this one :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

What the op mentioned in his first is not far from reasonable. For anyone looking for screen enhancements on their single decks should look no further than what is happening on the p2 & p4 screen functions. The dual/4 waveforms on screen functions were already there and has always been available for the next firmware update for the single decks.

The decks should work according to what the deck was designed to do by whatā€™s printed on the hardware. This keeps everybody who wants to spin on them on the same page.

Rekordbuddy;

You used to have to pay for it until it was abandoned. Open format/source means either you are starting up or giving up.

do you actually read the posts youā€™re replying to? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: once more:

i provided examples of other options and so did others.

and you obviously didnā€™t read the wiki article either. so hereā€™s one quote from that:

Get it right :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: cause it did read therefore I adjusted for it.

This is the only way to do it when you have a pool of at 50000 djs.

I have a feeling most of us are at the point where one might feel if denon canā€™t do it in a certain amount of time then someone else should do it for them.

Itā€™s just the -way- and the -frequency- and the -naive- element which was. An hourā€¦ lol

@DJ_Sontag, no its not personal preference. most people find a neon blue in this day and age much more appealing than flat green.

not a dozen pieces of info, just layed out more like a laptop kind of browser that weve all gotten used to.

@Reese, you purposely dont look at the bpm read out? is that even possible when your looking at the decks in front of you?

@NoiseRiser, thats what im saying, why would you waste time beat matching when nobody cares in this era, the 90ā€™s are long gone.

so lets not pretend where mixing by ear its a bit embarrasing when we are all in the know here. you can save those stories for the general public.

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Did I say that? I already said subliminal, so the value noticed will go into your brain.

You on the other hand are stating we are not mixing by ear, which is total nonsense. I adjust pitch blindly, without looking at the resulting bpm on the screen.

During a set the bpm goes up, so yes I use the value to look for faster tracks based upon the speed playing.

In other words: I use the modern info available, but I still play old school.

(Btw, you can use @ tags or quotes to reply to more people in one post. Please do so. Iā€™ve edited for neatness.)

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30 years ago I used to tap a bpm counter and strum my guitar to find the approximate key. Now I donā€™t have anymore. Instead of having bpm and key penned on the record label itā€™s right there on the screen right in front of my face and because Iā€™m unable to run ep for any new addition to my music collection Iā€™m spinning like itā€™s 1999. Only a couple of ways to spin back then but now itā€™s a buffet where people get to pick and chose how they want to present their set.

For us here we can debate the legitimacy of techniques used for to perform a set. But for those who listen to our work they only care mostly for the end product.

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Iā€™m not debating that. People indeed donā€™t care how or if a DJ is mixing. And sometimes you simply donā€™t need to; just chop it all up. The audience only needs to be entertained in the end, but I do care about the how.

Back on topic.

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Yes, it is a shame that some need to go down to that level on here. At the end of the day, people just want to see improvements and be constructive, but unfortunately others seem to make it personal.

You really have nothing better to do than resurrect 8 months old threads with spammy posts adding nothing constructive?

Who are you, second account of Reticuli?

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That would be the 3rd account for him apparently :shushing_face:

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I must of missed a lot.