I cant answer anything to do with USB speeds and which drive is best, all I know is my Prime 2 works perfectly with an internal WD Blue SSD connected via the SATA drive.
Ive tested with a USB 3.0 stick (128gb) and that works well too however, but then I have no red tracks, no sub playlists, I regularly format and re-install my music collection. Im not sure if any of this matters or impacts it, but it’s working.
Same for me! I have Sandisk Ultra Flair and Extrem Pro sticks, as well as the SSDs I mentioned above and everything was working fine until T7, same for a friend and other users. So I think the problem is simply a pseudo incompatibility making the performance of this SSD randomly efficient.
But personally, I prefer to work with my internal disk!
I know a number of people who use t5 and t7 and have no problems. My t7 also works well, at least with a PC. therefore, it is not correct to say that everyone has problems with these SSDs.
This context is brilliant as its easy for folks to read and not bang their heads on the wall.
The other important thing is the actual size of the library i.e. number of tracks in collection.
I have a 77k collection which is growing by at least 500 tracks per year, i also have many playlists with sub-playlists and some with sub-sub playlist. In my use case the 5000m/6000m that is not hosting the storage struggles…a quite bit. sometimes it takes up to 10 mins to load a playlist after switching sources. I’m in discussion with support trying to solve this issue as we are not all Laidback-Luke that rocks up to a gig with a 100-200 track collection and 2 playlists.
Yeah it’s definitely an issue that needs to be resolved, or at the very least some clarity on different storage media and what works and what doesnt.
Im only 5500 tracks so nowhere near as many as you, but I know the issues have been happening with others who hold similar sized collections.
I never said that EVERYONE had problems (probably a bad translation from Google)! I said that I saw that there were a number of users in the Pioneer and Denon forum and ditto in facebook pages dedicated to Denon and Pioneer who had random problems just like my colleague and me. You know very well that disgruntled people express themselves more often than happy users of their products, this will say nothing and it’s a shame that will be reassuring for future users.
For additional information my Prime 4 jumps with both the ssd (crucial bx500 1tb) and the usb (sandisk extreme pro 128 Gb). I don’t remember if it fails with Tidal, I don’t use it much. I’ll try it today when I have a session.
I use that Sandisk USB and aren’t seeing any issues with it. Do you have all your music analysed in the desktop app and properly exported via the sync manager? Have you ran the disk cleanup on your collection recently? When was the last time you formatted the drive and re-exported everything?
Translated for the benefit of the English speaking forum:
Arguing with you is a waste of time. Fortunately, people notice it very quickly, here or on Facebook. You came to parasitize this topic with your story of T7 whose face does not come back to you, with crappy and ridiculous arguments, proving how incompetent and narrow-minded you are. You manage to say so much ■■■■■■■■ in one sentence that it would be almost comical if it were not so distressing. From now on I will very carefully avoid answering you. As most already do.
I indicate this to reduce the number of possible bugs. In case to see if it comes from the disc or the reader, I will test with another SSD and if the problem is not present it will necessarily come from the SSD, if the problem persists with another SSD the problem will be the reader (the OS), but also the problem comes from a wifi problem with streaming when playing his music, which had not been indicated before. And I never once again said that I didn’t like the “mouth” of the SSD, we tried it and with our Prime 4 and Prime 4+ and RX2 and 3, the problem was present with 2 SSDs out of the 3 and not to mention the few feedback on other forums and facebook pages. in all I had to read comments from 17 users who had problems, not counting us and not everyone. It was therefore a track to be taken more or less into account.
We have never had any stuttering with audio files with X software version or OS whether with other SSDs or USB sticks or SD cards.
I’m a very satisfied Samsung T7 user, with no problems.
…just saying! 
Thank you very much for your return!
Now let’s get down to basics.
What is the format of your T7? “ExFat or Fat32”
How many audio files do you have?
Are you using the latest version of the OS and if so… have you had any audio stutters?
Has your library or song loading time with your player become significantly slower?
With your PC or Mac during the export, has the transfer time become longer, doubled / tripled or more?
And finally did you have a screen freeze with the computer or your player?
One thing ive found recently, im not able to format my drives in ‘ExFAT’ on my M1 MacBook, I need to do more testing but basically even when I select ExFAT its formatting as FAT32. I dont recall this being an issue previously with my old Intel laptop.
I think people should be looking at doing a cleanse of their data to try and resolve this, formatting, re-syncing, database cleanup, remove red tracks… then some basics like ensuring all their music files are valid and not corrupted, downloaded from reputable sites etc.
Bonsoir à tous, désolé mais j’ai le P4 depuis le tout début, et le système ne cesse de s’améliorer, je n’ai pas plus de pb de sauts que sur le SC6000 ou le Prime GO, pas de pb de latence, de bug de lectures… (sauf ceux dus aux pb de mise à jour mais qui ont été largement résolus). C’est sûr que le P4 (y compris le plus) commence à dater, mais franchement le matos est toujours au top et ne rame pas. Maintenant avoir 50.000 morceaux ou plus sur un dd externe n’est pas vraiment efficient, mieux vaut utiliser le port interne ssd bcp plus rapide. Le mix en streaming bon courage… (en club je n’en parle même pas… avec tous ceux qui insta ou filment ou utilisent le bluetooth) Après avec des clés Sandisk pro 128 ou équivalent, c’est rapide et fiable.
Not sure if it’s been mentioned anywhere (too many posts/noise) but the Prime gear draw their waveforms live since moving away from holding it within the database in V2.0.
The storage medium shouldn’t matter re: waveforms.
I have received a reply from thomann which is where I bought it and they tell me:
"Thank you for your patience.
We have been able to review the video with our service department.
This seems to be common with Denon products but despite that there doesn’t seem to be a solution as it depends entirely on the CPU usage.
We are sorry we are unable to help you. Our only suggestion would be to contact the brand’s support directly.
We appreciate your understanding."
I sometimes see these jumps on the SC Live 4 as well.