# Traktor with Prime 4 as Controller?
**URL:** https://community.enginedj.com/t/traktor-with-prime-4-as-controller/14279
**Category:** Standalone Controllers
**Tags:** engine-os, traktor, prime4
**Created:** [June 23, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/traktor-with-prime-4-as-controller/14279 "2019-06-23T19:03:55Z")
**Posts on this page:** 13
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### Author:  [@Yvomans](https://community.enginedj.com/u/Yvomans)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/traktor-with-prime-4-as-controller/14279/1 "2019-06-23T19:03:55Z")
I’m used to Traktor and imho it is more advanced than Engine at the moment. Is there anyone who managed to use the Prime 4 as Controller for Traktor?
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### Author:  [@PKtheDJ](https://community.enginedj.com/u/PKtheDJ)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/traktor-with-prime-4-as-controller/14279/2 "2019-06-23T19:25:07Z")
You seem confused. Traktor is DJ software. Engine Prime is librarian software, not DJ software. It’s for preparing your tracks.
The Prime 4 is a standalone “DJ System”. It’s designed to be used without a computer, or DJ software.
Why would you buy a Prime 4 then just use it to control DJ software? That’s like buying a car then walking everywhere! There are plenty of controllers already on the market, if that’s what you need.
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### Author:  [@mufasa](https://community.enginedj.com/u/mufasa)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2019, 8:02pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/traktor-with-prime-4-as-controller/14279/3 "2019-06-23T20:02:33Z")
Start a feature request for Traktor support.
> [@PKtheDJ](#):
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> The Prime 4 is a standalone “DJ System”
I’m sure he is aware.
> [@PKtheDJ](#):
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> It’s designed to be used without a computer, or DJ software.
Where is the source of this information?
> [@PKtheDJ](#):
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> That’s like buying a car then walking everywhere!
He prefers flying. 😜
EP 🚲, Traktor/Serato/Rekordbox ✈
> [@Yvomans](#):
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> it is more advanced than Engine at the moment
Facts.
Why dont you continue preparing your tracks in Traktor, then sync it across using Engine Prime?
> [@PKtheDJ](#):
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> You seem confused
He seems of sound mind to me.
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### Author:  [@DJ\_Vintage](https://community.enginedj.com/u/DJ_Vintage)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 5:30am UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/traktor-with-prime-4-as-controller/14279/4 "2019-06-24T05:30:08Z")
> [@mufasa](#):
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> Why dont you continue preparing your tracks in Traktor, then sync it across using Engine Prime?
This … Plenty of options to make that work flawlessly.
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### Author:  [@Nekoro\_DenonDJ](https://community.enginedj.com/u/Nekoro_DenonDJ)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 2:00pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/traktor-with-prime-4-as-controller/14279/5 "2019-06-24T14:00:36Z")
Hi @Yvomans, thanks for posting. As of now, PRIME 4 is only a standalone console, to be used with an external library, preferably prepped via Engine PRIME. It will be open to Serato DJ Pro in a future firmware update. Secondly, I agree with @mufasa. A Feature Request for Traktor support is a good idea, and you can start one here: [https://community.enginedj.com/c/feature-requests](https://community.enginedj.com/c/feature-requests)
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### Author:  [@jpmca89](https://community.enginedj.com/u/jpmca89)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/traktor-with-prime-4-as-controller/14279/6 "2019-06-24T14:26:49Z")
Even though the Prime 4 is not supported by Traktor, will it be possible to midi map the unit for DVS purposes? As Traktor 3 can run DVS through any soundcard, I’m assuming the on board soundcard in the Prime 4 should be able to work with no issues so you could technically hook up 2 turntables/cd players with timecode with the Prime 4 and midi map basic controls like hot cues etc?
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### Author:  [@Yvomans](https://community.enginedj.com/u/Yvomans)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2019, 12:00pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/traktor-with-prime-4-as-controller/14279/7 "2019-06-25T12:00:56Z")
Thanks all for your suggestions. I do understand the Prim4 for is a standalone system. That’s exactly why I bought it 😉
Main point is in the workflow I’m struggling with related to Mixed in Key (MiK) and previous Traktor I was used to work with.
1. I add new tracks to MiK
2. I have them imported in Traktor
3. Cue points are synced to Traktor from MiK
4. Traktor is used o rate and organize tracks in my library
Extra hurdle is that Engine has difficulties in syncing files from a network drive (all tracks are stored on a cloud synced drive).
Reason to keep Traktor in place is flawless MiK integration. It would then be easy and preferable to have the Prime 4 deck also connected to Traktor to do rating and Library management. Although syncing the Traktor collection to Engine can’t be done incremental, so when adding a bunch of new tracks it takes long to sync the full Traktor Collection (I can live with that for the moment).
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### Author:  [@mufasa](https://community.enginedj.com/u/mufasa)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2019, 2:32pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/traktor-with-prime-4-as-controller/14279/8 "2019-06-25T14:32:06Z")
> [@Yvomans](#):
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> Although syncing the Traktor collection to Engine can’t be done incremental, so when adding a bunch of new tracks it takes long to sync the full Traktor Collection
Dont forget to like this feature request
[https://community.enginedj.com/t/faster-library-refresh/13739?u=mufasa](https://community.enginedj.com/t/faster-library-refresh/13739)
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### Author:  [@DJ\_Vintage](https://community.enginedj.com/u/DJ_Vintage)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/traktor-with-prime-4-as-controller/14279/9 "2019-06-25T20:04:53Z")
Mac or Windows? If the former, check ATGR conversion tools. They might have something that allows you to keep your old workflow AND use P4 standalone. I believe the guy that writes those tools is an original Traktor user.
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### Author:  [@Yvomans](https://community.enginedj.com/u/Yvomans)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 10:15am UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/traktor-with-prime-4-as-controller/14279/10 "2019-07-02T10:15:10Z")
Windows. ATGR does not run unfortunately…
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### Author:  [@DJ\_Vintage](https://community.enginedj.com/u/DJ_Vintage)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/traktor-with-prime-4-as-controller/14279/11 "2019-07-02T18:25:02Z")
It’s what I said … “If the former”, being Mac.
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### Author:  [@The\_Double\_V](https://community.enginedj.com/u/The_Double_V)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2019, 9:16pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/traktor-with-prime-4-as-controller/14279/12 "2019-11-01T21:16:21Z")
I don’t see that someone created the feature request and I agree so I did it. Please Like this request “[https://community.enginedj.com/t/ability-to-work-with-traktor-as-a-midi-controller/16999”](https://community.enginedj.com/t/ability-to-work-with-traktor-as-a-midi-controller/16999%E2%80%9D)
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### Author:  [@Jay\_Jaxon1](https://community.enginedj.com/u/Jay_Jaxon1)
#### Post date: [March 4, 2025, 10:26pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/traktor-with-prime-4-as-controller/14279/13 "2025-03-04T22:26:14Z")
I get you, but the promotion for Prime 4 is pretty misleading. Engine is a very mediocre library management. Can’t properly update and support is not good either. Once you use the Dj software from Prime 4 or even the Serato integration I can see how fast you are going to miss Traktor. I haven’t seen hardware as good as the Prime 4 but the Dj functionality is very mediocre especially if you consider the price. Traktor is a fantastic piece of software if you know what you are doing and what ti integrate with a production station.