# New controller for second layer?
**URL:** https://community.enginedj.com/t/new-controller-for-second-layer/25585
**Category:** News & Announcements
**Tags:** engine-os, sc6000m, sc6000, sc5000m, sc5000
**Created:** [September 4, 2020, 2:56pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/new-controller-for-second-layer/25585 "2020-09-04T14:56:48Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 6
### Author:  [@Shain](https://community.enginedj.com/u/Shain)
#### Post date: [November 25, 2020, 5:58pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/new-controller-for-second-layer/25585/103 "2020-11-25T17:58:49Z")
Might be worth buying two and selling one back to L&M down the road. Brand new in a box, I would imagine they will give you more than half the value of the original price š lol might just workā¦
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### Author:  [@DJ\_PaulTUK](https://community.enginedj.com/u/DJ_PaulTUK)
#### Post date: [November 25, 2020, 7:00pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/new-controller-for-second-layer/25585/104 "2020-11-25T19:00:39Z")
Its not a Player, its a dumb controller that works on the ethernet bus and using the computing power within the master SC5000 / 6000. Should be much cheaper given it has little tech inside.
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### Author:  [@PKtheDJ](https://community.enginedj.com/u/PKtheDJ)
#### Post date: [November 25, 2020, 9:45pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/new-controller-for-second-layer/25585/105 "2020-11-25T21:45:30Z")
Again, how do you know that? Surely no one can say that it **is** anything, until Denon have made their announcement.
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### Author:  [@KevinBasher](https://community.enginedj.com/u/KevinBasher)
#### Post date: [November 25, 2020, 9:45pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/new-controller-for-second-layer/25585/106 "2020-11-25T21:45:33Z")
> [@DJ\_PaulTUK](#):
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> Its not a Player, its a dumb controller that works on the ethernet bus and using the computing power within the master SC5000 / 6000.
Do you have a source for that? Or just a wild guess?
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### Author:  [@Christopia](https://community.enginedj.com/u/Christopia)
#### Post date: [November 25, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/new-controller-for-second-layer/25585/107 "2020-11-25T21:47:00Z")
> [@thisisian](#):
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> Grab a 2nd SC5000 while prices are reduced, or hold on & see if the mythical new controller will control the second layer at an even lower price.
If it were me Iād go for the 2nd sc5000.
If you have one SC5000 and one slave and the sc5000 fails in any way, like power, fuse, drinks spillage, corrupt track hanging the deck etc , then in a guessed theory, the slave deck would be completely inoperable too.
On the other hand, If youāve got two sc5000 and one fails then you can use the two layers on the working deck to keep the party going until you can sort the problem
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### Author:  [@DJ\_PaulTUK](https://community.enginedj.com/u/DJ_PaulTUK)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/new-controller-for-second-layer/25585/108 "2020-11-27T17:56:14Z")
Look in my pictureā¦ a certain friend told me.
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### Author:  [@Wyley1](https://community.enginedj.com/u/Wyley1)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2020, 2:38am UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/new-controller-for-second-layer/25585/109 "2020-11-29T02:38:30Z")
We still donāt believe you š¤Ŗ You gotta give us absolute proof š¤£
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### Author:  [@Reese](https://community.enginedj.com/u/Reese)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2020, 9:33am UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/new-controller-for-second-layer/25585/110 "2020-11-29T09:33:16Z")
There are only 2 in possession by non-staff. Lucas has one. I have one.
I donāt know when something will be announced. Until then, I will not comment.
To that extend. Friends of mine will not disclose information either.
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### Author:  [@Rich4x4h](https://community.enginedj.com/u/Rich4x4h)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2020, 1:11pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/new-controller-for-second-layer/25585/111 "2020-11-30T13:11:05Z")
I hope the 2nd layer controller will work with my SC5000s too, not just the 6000. I know the platter seems to be sc6000 size, so will look odd next to a 5000 but I could live with that difference
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### Author:  [@subwax](https://community.enginedj.com/u/subwax)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2020, 1:17pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/new-controller-for-second-layer/25585/112 "2020-11-30T13:17:38Z")
The 5000 and 6000 are so architecturally similar that I would be amazed if it doesnāt work.
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### Author:  [@Rich4x4h](https://community.enginedj.com/u/Rich4x4h)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2020, 1:50pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/new-controller-for-second-layer/25585/113 "2020-11-30T13:50:10Z")
Thatās what Iām hoping. Or that if there are any differences then thereās some menu that appears on the master SC that allows you to say how the slave responds to the master deck being a 5000 or a 6000 for platter sizes maybe
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### Author:  [@PKtheDJ](https://community.enginedj.com/u/PKtheDJ)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2021, 1:41pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/new-controller-for-second-layer/25585/114 "2021-01-07T13:41:28Z")
BUMP
So who remembers this from all the way back in September last year?
Watching Mojaxx play on Twitch yesterday, he said that he wonāt be streaming for a while as heās busy making videos for upcoming product releases.
Could it be???
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### Author:  [@KevinBasher](https://community.enginedj.com/u/KevinBasher)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/new-controller-for-second-layer/25585/115 "2021-01-07T17:29:28Z")
He might be working on a video about this product:
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### Author:  [@PKtheDJ](https://community.enginedj.com/u/PKtheDJ)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/new-controller-for-second-layer/25585/116 "2021-01-07T18:14:04Z")
Well thatās one (haha) product - but the way he said it implied more than a single product.
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### Author:  [@thisisian](https://community.enginedj.com/u/thisisian)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2021, 7:38pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/new-controller-for-second-layer/25585/117 "2021-01-07T19:38:03Z")
Woah! ā¦now youāve got my interest. š š¶
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### Author:  [@NoiseRiser](https://community.enginedj.com/u/NoiseRiser)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2021, 9:08pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/new-controller-for-second-layer/25585/118 "2021-01-07T21:08:57Z")
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bbpLUCL4lU)
Maybe this will show moreā¦
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### Author:  [@Jetsound](https://community.enginedj.com/u/Jetsound)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2021, 11:36pm UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/new-controller-for-second-layer/25585/119 "2021-01-07T23:36:08Z")
Two decks and a mixer in one from Rane.
Itāll cost about the same as a family car lol
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### Author:  [@mufasa](https://community.enginedj.com/u/mufasa)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2021, 12:10am UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/new-controller-for-second-layer/25585/120 "2021-01-08T00:10:37Z")
Looks a lot like that
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### Author:  [@Jetsound](https://community.enginedj.com/u/Jetsound)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2021, 12:34am UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/new-controller-for-second-layer/25585/121 "2021-01-08T00:34:04Z")
> [@mufasa](#):
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> Looks a lot like that
Ooooooh so either Rane is selling a Numark for a massively inflated price tag, or Numark is selling a Rane a stunning discounted fire sale price, or both Numark and rane have got DJs needs dialled in so tight, that all systems with two decks and a mixer are just going to look more or less the same
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### Author:  [@Wyley1](https://community.enginedj.com/u/Wyley1)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2021, 7:51am UTC](https://community.enginedj.com/t/new-controller-for-second-layer/25585/122 "2021-01-08T07:51:59Z")
I wonder if this new rane product will have hybrid mode?
If so Iāll pick one up for my iPad.
It looks to have dual soundcards.
It look to be a standalone mixer with fx.
And it looks like it has 2 mic inputs.
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